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From: Thomase

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258224.9 in reply to 258224.8
Date: 4/24/2014 11:59:09 AM
Beetle-Team
Nationalliga A
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My first goal is the playoffs. Then I see further. I'm out of the cup, but I have a few trainable player:-)

Good look to all!

Greetings from switzerland!

Man ist erst besiegt, wenn man sich geschlagen gibt!
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258224.10 in reply to 258224.9
Date: 4/24/2014 12:13:57 PM
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Personally, I think the game shape training and blank lineup issues have ruined the idea behind utopia slightly.

Overall I am content with it, I see gdp's, I see effort changes, there's a team in my league 4 of his 6 games have been decided by literal buzzer beaters at the buzzer (he's 3-1 on them). I feel the people whom chose to train Utopians and go that route will not promote over the guys whom bought vets and do game shape training, but in actuality everyone had that option.

My biggest disappointment though.... I watched 2 games on Tuesday and for 6 hours was the ONLY person in utopia chat watching games....

Gives me the vibe that utopia is as dead as most of the leagues.

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258224.12 in reply to 258224.10
Date: 4/24/2014 1:51:38 PM
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Personally, I think the game shape training and blank lineup issues have ruined the idea behind utopia slightly.


I don't. I'm not saying either of those things are good for the game, and it'd probably be a net improvement if both disappeared, but I don't think the effect is going to have any significance at this point in Utopia's lifespan.

Where it would be a much bigger concern is once we get to having serious talent in the top leagues, and the differences between teams is such that the relatively small effects of those issues will be heavier in comparison to the delta between the teams. But currently, there's much more variation of rosters and skill levels of managers. Accordingly, factors like GS training or blank lineups or noobfarming their bank accounts or lucky/unlucky starting rosters or the like pale in comparison to managerial competence in building and managing their roster and lineups.

The long and short of it is that Utopia is just another reflection of the user. A user that knows how to build a team from the ground up will be able to do that again. A user who knows how to profit by transfer list shenanigans will be able to do that again. A user who knows how to buy higher salary players, expect higher ratings, and complains when he gets beat by better-built teams will be able to do that again. Utopia is whatever we make of it.





From: arda

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258224.13 in reply to 258224.9
Date: 4/24/2014 2:09:14 PM
galatasaray suns
II.3
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galatasaray suns II
my strategy is to move on Utopian cup and promoted the upper league. My target is make happy my fans and earn much more money. In addition that ı prefer to buy old players for reach the target. I don't prefer to buy trainable player because it's very cost effective to train young player.(trainer cost,salary, doctor salary, to sacrifice matches which means low income from fans etc.)

We will see am ı right or not end of season:)

Good luck to all

From Turkey;)

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258224.16 in reply to 258224.15
Date: 4/24/2014 11:51:43 PM
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The cup was my biggest disappointment so far for the season.

In part, I did not have a handle on my team and I did not have the roster setup yet. Otherwise, It's a huge cash influx for the winners.


I have liked dabbling in a bunch of different things. I've done a little daytrading and made some extra cash (not nearly as much as the Chinese guy in my league, I wish he would share some tips). I have some older guys with some different salary ranges that should be able to last a couple season. I have some trainees and plans to replace the older guys when they become too geriatric to play.

The future may be awkward. What is D4 going to look like once you take out the top 256 teams? In one year when everyones Utopia runs out...will all of the remaining D4 teams just disappear?

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258224.17 in reply to 258224.16
Date: 5/14/2014 2:48:26 AM
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This is slightly off topic, but it is still Utopia related.
I can say that the dream of having a 100% homegrown team has been actualized, and dang, my team is actually worse than I thought it would be, and I imagined it being pretty darn bad.
Still, it's kind of fun figuring out what to train and managing minutes, especially when 5 of my top 6 players are also trainees.
I get some fairly 'okay' performance from some seriously awful players at times, which has to do with a lot of the competition still having some original players as well, but nevertheless, that is cool to see. A couple of my best players are Awful and worse on FT's, which is simply brutal.
The salary floor not hitting yet has been helpful for my finances, but once it does, and once I demote (and get hit with the attendance penalty next season), it's going to be a different story.

Is anyone else trying out a homegrown team, as in ZERO player transfers (besides selling)?

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258224.18 in reply to 258224.17
Date: 5/14/2014 2:31:33 PM
Ratu BK
SBBL
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Is anyone else trying out a homegrown team, as in ZERO player transfers (besides selling)?


Yep... think there´s eight of us in Sweden, we got a private league for home-growers and its pretty ok. Since my main team isnt getting many pops, home-growing has made the friday updates much more fun for me :) Its also possible to win some games in my league, which probably adds up to it not being very good, but so far I think Utopia is a positive surprise in my view. I see a challenge next season with the salary floor like you say.. but its the same for all home-growers. Quality comes with a cost. (y)

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258224.19 in reply to 258224.18
Date: 5/14/2014 3:43:40 PM
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It's going to be quite fun in the coming seasons, shifting training focus from current players to the new crop of rookies.
My best current player has Benchwarmer potential. He's basically capped out already, but he'll be in my lineup for a couple seasons at least before he is relegated to reserve status and then sold for a couple grand.

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