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From: Mickyster

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262725.9 in reply to 262725.8
Date: 9/24/2014 11:23:56 PM
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You are best to have 2 main trainees and a 3rd lesser one.

Game 1 start player A and Player B back up
Game 2 swap them over

Chances are one will have 48+ mins and other will be just short
in game 3 start player C and then back up player who is not 48+mins

Doing one position is vital long term. There are many options to make your player work. IF you want them in 21 NT you need to train primary skills for position first. IF that is not a goal or possiable you are better to train 2ndary skills first. Example if you want to train a good big train OD and Passing @ PG first when they are young and train quicker. Then move to training primary skills of ID/IS/RB and some SB. Then when they are a good level give them some 1on1 for forwards. This will give him skills in all areas other then JR. You have a well balanced players moving forward.

If you want particular help with your players fell free to pm their skills and I will offer advice on best way forward.

Also what level trainer do you have?

M

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262725.10 in reply to 262725.6
Date: 9/25/2014 12:52:52 AM
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Also just as an aside, its quite common for newer players to the game to want to train more players to begin with - I know that i certainly did this when i started.

But longer term, you want to have focused and deliberate training plan with longer term outcomes. That is - 3-4 seasons from now. Rather than just wanting 5 of your guys to get 1 or 2 pops for the remainder of the season.

There are several benefits of having longer term plans and focusing your training on 1-2 players. Single position will help them improve faster, thus giving you more value out of the training minutes.
But there are also thigns such as the fact that half way through the season, you are getting skills from players, which you aren't paying in salary yet. (Because salary only updates at end of season). your player which had 'Strong' ID, half waythrough the season has Prominent or Prolific ID, but his salary hasn't updated yet. So this is a bonus.

You also are building players that are more valuable when you sell them. in the longer term, thats also a good thing.

So yer, Mickyster has given some other info about why its good to train single position as well, whihc is valuable info.


From: whitewind

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262725.11 in reply to 262725.8
Date: 9/25/2014 8:24:24 AM
rimmers
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I go with 3 trainees and play:
Game 1: trainee 1 48mins
Game 2: trainee 2 48mins
Game 3: trainee 3 48mins

This way your 3rd trainee gets 48mins each week too and they don't have to be a "lesser" trainee. Maybe once or twice a season you'll get a situation, but you can usually avoid it by training one on one that week and giving them all 48mins still.

Just remember to still get your trainees a secong game where they play backup only so they total around 65 mins each week. This will keep their game shape in strong or proficient.

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262725.12 in reply to 262725.11
Date: 9/25/2014 8:57:55 AM
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yep this is the way to have 3 trainee's.

Mickyster aluded to maybe only having the 3rd trainee as a 'lesser' trainee, because what may happen in G1 or G2, is that your trainee does not get his allocated minutes,

So say Trainee 2 only gets 40 minutes (for whatever reason which i won't go into here. ) in G2, then you could set him as reserve and backup in G3 to get those extra 8 minutes.
However the impact is that then your trainee 3, only gets 40 mins.

Also the problem with having 3 trainee's, is that you end up with 1 position in every single game, which is, for a few seasons, having (possibly) a lesser player in that position, week in week out. - That is to say, you put a brand new trainee at PG, its going to be 1-2 seasons before he is servicable as a PG fo ryour team.

So be aware that training brand new trainee's can be determinantal to your team's success. So this is all part of a being a sucessful manager, and managing/balancing this.

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262725.13 in reply to 262725.12
Date: 9/25/2014 9:17:03 AM
rimmers
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Mickyster aluded to maybe only having the 3rd trainee as a 'lesser' trainee, because what may happen in G1 or G2, is that your trainee does not get his allocated minutes, .


Actually, if you re-read what Mickyster wrote, it's not what he said, which is why I added this way.

In the way he described, your 3 trainees will rarely all receive 48mins in a week, and therefore your third trainee is, infact, lesser.This way they almost always all get 48mins, and your third trainee is as well trained as your other 2.

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262725.14 in reply to 262725.13
Date: 9/25/2014 9:34:58 AM
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i may actually being confused with another thread that he wrote in, apologies.

that sentance above kinda makes me sound asian.

Last edited by Coach Regan at 9/25/2014 9:35:24 AM

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262725.15 in reply to 262725.13
Date: 9/25/2014 1:54:02 PM
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IMO it is taking too much of a risk to try and force 3 guys to get 48 mins a week.
Most weeks I get 3 to get 48 mins but sometimes it just does nto work out. And you need to be prepared to just to 1 position training if need be or have a trainee who you are happy to miss some mins.

Generally my 3rd guys is a younger lower potenital guy or a older guy I am just giving some finishing touches to. Tryint to get 4 players 48mins a week will make it hard to win as often and also be difficult for a new person to training to manage.


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262725.16 in reply to 262725.15
Date: 9/25/2014 6:19:04 PM
rimmers
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So who is your 3rd trainee? How many times has he got 48mins this season?

Nolan is mine. He has had 48mins training every week this season, apart from his recent injury break.

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262725.17 in reply to 262725.15
Date: 9/25/2014 8:42:38 PM
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I agree that you need a third trainee, who you are willing to give less minutes to if necessary. But you should try to give all 3 48 training minutes per week, because, why not?

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Date: 9/26/2014 5:00:07 AM
rimmers
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Agreed, it's kind of like disadvantaging yourself to prevent a possible, yet unlikely, disadvantage. Your conceeding that you will just be disadvantaged

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