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I like it. I'd try to keep the rivals together when shuffling, but that's a very minor concern.

Personally I'd swap 2 teams from a conference to the other (this would be new) and 2-4 teams from a league to another (this already happens). Only swap equally ranked teams: a #2 with a #2, a #5 with a #5, to keep the level broadly in line (but clearly a weaker conferences or leagues will become more competitive).

I think this is a great feature to level the playing field across same level leagues (and conferences). There may be leagues where all the teams are carrying a much lower salary than the overall average. If you swap into such leagues 4 teams with average or above average salary, at least there is a chance some older teams will be forced to increase their payroll to compete instead of cashing thanks to a league specific situation.

I also think it's more interesting when you have to scout managers you haven't played against before.


Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/26/2015 12:51:50 PM

yeah, swapping 5th place teams in between conferences sounds like a cool concept...not sure the teams who will get swapped will like it (say you get moved from a weak conference to a strong conference)

well if in 90% of the other leagues that 5th placed team would have ended 7th, then I think it's fair he has to face average competition. Same for the 5th who is in a very strong league and would have nailed a 2nd or 3rd spot elsewhere.

Bottom line for each unhappy user you will have a happier one, but this way at least it's fair: you prevent entire leagues to be much weaker than others. This is evident even at D2 level. For example all the previous winners of my D2 are in D1 at the moment (that's 5 teams) and have the #1 and #2 seed in the blue conference and #1, #2, #6 on the red conference. On top of that a guy who relegated from that D2 also had back to back promotions and he's now in D1. So 6/16 teams in the top league have been in my ex D2 in the last 5 seasons.
Do you think this system is fair when people had to wait to promote because there were too many good teams concentrated in that league? I don't think so. 2-4 teams from that league would have been able to promote in any other D2 in England, in fact no D1 team coming down there ever made it back to D1 within 2 seasons. Then there is the even worse problem of leagues with 15 human managers and others with 2. How is that fair by any standard?

And while this is a matter of (bad) luck to some extent, I think smoothing such imbalances it's a completely valid and fair idea, no matter what some user thinks.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/27/2015 9:11:15 PM

It's the same in D3 in England. Last time I did the draft scouting for D3 (before NT Scout became available) I noticed that lower numbered leagues have many more human managers than higher numbered ones. 15 and 2 were not random numbers I picked. The guys in the most human populated D3s have also stuck around and the most populated D3, in fact, used to interact a lot through the league forum.

That's another suggestion right there. If you do start swapping teams across leagues everywhere in the world, please implement a divisional forum. The problem with forums is that the new posts are hardly visible. I think some cosmetic improvement would help, but it would be even nicer if you could see if a former league opponent (who has been swapped out) posts something in the division forum. In D4 and below perhaps there could be groups of leagues where the swapping is implemented (so perhaps 1-16 17-32 33-48 49-64). (Local) forums activity has never been a priority, I know, but it's one of the easiest ways for people to engage with other managers.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 10/27/2015 9:25:31 PM

This relates, but is a little off topic.

I wonder why I did not get promoted as I finished off the season loosing the final. I finished the regular season as 2 in big 8. No 1 got promoted, but I beat him in the PO.

I clearly had the better team. Why did I not go up as the league runner up?