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276439.10 in reply to 276439.9
Date: 2/13/2016 12:03:40 PM
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I can't see this happening, but perhaps a system like the following could work:
1) 2 managers agree about the players they want to exchange
2) they have to list all the players who are part of the trade on the TL within say 4 hours from each other
3) these players will have a mark of some kind to let people know their managers are trying to trade them. People will bid normally on all players (and they will buy them if the trade fails)
4) the managers in the trade cannot bid on the other manager's players with any of their teams
5) when all the auctions end, the result of the bidding needs to be screened by someone to make sure nobody submitted some significant raise out of the blue, to "prop up" the value of one of the traded players to make the values match
6) the manager who is short on values from his side, will have to automatically pay the difference in cash. If he can pay the trade automatically happens, if he can't we move to point 7)
7) 24 hours after the last bid the trade resolves: if one side fails to have bids on all the players he listed for the trade OR if one side can't gather enough cash to push the trade through OR if the review at point 5), which will have to be done in 24 hours, highlights some strange bid, then the trade fails and there is no exchange. In the last case, the suspicious bids will be reported to GMs and dealt with all the usual penalties.
8) if the trade fails, the managers can outbid the TL winning bid on their own players by 2% for a limited amount of time (say 30 minutes after the trade is resolved and failed). If they do not or they don't have the cash, then the winning bids from the auction 24h earlier will receive the players.

From: Antil11
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276439.12 in reply to 276439.11
Date: 2/16/2016 8:41:55 AM
Antil Global B.C.
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Guys, i think this is more simple than we think...

- 1 week delay to each trade (For GM's to check the trade)...
- Up to 3 players per 1 player. The trade is ok under GM's control...
- The teams can't sell the traded players until the end of season
- 1 trade per season to the same team
- trades are available until all star game

Also, weekly amounts like wage, could be given as trade
Draft pics, also could be good to trades...

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276439.14 in reply to 276439.13
Date: 2/18/2016 2:21:55 AM
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Isn't that cheating though?

You sell me your player for 5 million, I sell you my player for 5 million. Nobody else bids because of the high price tag...

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276439.16 in reply to 276439.15
Date: 2/18/2016 6:27:12 AM
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And what is the "actual market value" you speak of? I always wondered how GMs decide that a purchase has been made above "actual market value", if one lists the guy for $4m and someone else bids on him.

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276439.17 in reply to 276439.15
Date: 2/18/2016 8:18:25 AM
Antil Global B.C.
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one totally random algorythm ?

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276439.19 in reply to 276439.16
Date: 2/18/2016 9:25:42 AM
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And what is the "actual market value" you speak of? I always wondered how GMs decide that a purchase has been made above "actual market value", if one lists the guy for $4m and someone else bids on him.


What if someone lists a guy for $10m and someone else bids on him? Or if someone lists a player at $1 and someone bids him up to $10M? Or $20M?

Basically, there are amounts that would be undoubtedly above the market value for a player, even if the purchaser is in no way connected with the seller (as occasionally happens with teams who are quitting and just overbid on players for whatever reasons they feel like). And if it can be established that a specific amount is above a fair market value, then it follows that at some point there is a reasonable market value, and that's a matter of judgment that our helpful and informed GMs (or occasionally, truculent ignorant ones like myself) have to ascertain.


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