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The best athlete, big humane and a good person.
Full of himself, arrogant and churlish...

[Ronaldo is good with left foot close as his right, Messi is not so good with his right.
Ronaldo is batter in the air and stronger, Messi has a batter technique.
Maradona played with the left, Riva the best ever centre forward for Italy also only left. Truth is when you are Messi or Maradona it doesn't matter if you can't use both feet equally.

Messi is also more agile and has a better first step, better tecnique, better court vision and has a higher scoring average. Ultimately it's like comparing LeBron and Durant. The case for KD is pretty slim, as realistically KD might edge LeBron in scoring and rebounding but that's debatable, while you know LeBron is the better playmaker, has the better BB IQ, is the more versatile defender and is the better player

Ronaldo dominated English Premier League and Spanish, Messi just in Spain.
Never really quite 'dominated' over here as you make it sound. And as a winger it's unlikely you'll find many United fans who'd take United Ronaldo over Beckham Giggs or Law just to name a few. Of course Madrid Ronaldo is better than United Ronaldo, that's another story.

Ronaldo won the Euro
Yes from the bench he did. Sure he's going to take the medal, just like Kareem got his ring when Magic played C, but everything on the pitch happened while he was on the freaking bench...others won that trophy for him. Also Real with Ronaldo failed to win more league titles that Atletico...figure that. In the 90s that would have guaranteed no Champions League titles either...

CR7 play for the best club in football history
Best club? Messi most certainly played on the best team in football history (it's either one of those Barcelona's sides from the last decade or one of the AC Milan's from the early 90s).


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Comparing Ronaldo and Messi is like comparing masturbation and sex. The first can give you enjoyable moments and occasional pleasure, but the second continuously takes you to heaven.

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The best athlete, big humane and a good person.
Full of himself, arrogant and churlish...


I bet you know him personally...


Ronaldo won the Euro
Yes from the bench he did. Sure he's going to take the medal, just like Kareem got his ring when Magic played C, but everything on the pitch happened while he was on the freaking bench...others won that trophy for him. Also Real with Ronaldo failed to win more league titles that Atletico...figure that. In the 90s that would have guaranteed no Champions League titles either...


Ronaldo hold Portugal to the final, as he did with Real Madrid to the last two Champs that we got, and had to let the court crying after being injured. Not sure about what Messi does in Argentina...

CR7 play for the best club in football history
Best club? Messi most certainly played on the best team in football history (it's either one of those Barcelona's sides from the last decade or one of the AC Milan's from the early 90s).

If you know a tem with more than 11 (maybe 12) European Champions, who was won 2 of the last 3 editions, recognized as the Best Team of XX Century, please tell it to all of us.

Nowadays Messi is a great midfield while Cristiano is the best striker over the world.

Good luck and Hala Madrid:)

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He´s my padawan:)

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I bet you know him personally...
I actually hang out with Portuguese people who know him personally very well since he was a kid playing for Sporting...which is more than can be said of most people.

Ronaldo hold Portugal to the final
Debatable considering they won the final without him. We have proof that the Cavs without LeBron sucked really bad. We don't have proof of what the Thunder would be without Westbrook, but I suspect that with competent PGs they would not be anywhere as bad as the worst teams in the league. We actually have proof that Portugal without Ronaldo was good enough to win that final, because the won it, same as the Lakers without Kareem. It's so simple.

If you know a tem with more than 11 (maybe 12) European Champions, who was won 2 of the last 3 editions, recognized as the Best Team of XX Century, please tell it to all of us.
Lolol look at Madrid fans holding on to those 50s titles and failing to understand the difference between team and club. Bulls '96 and '97, Warriors '16, Lakers '87 and '72, Celtics '86, Pistons '89, are the best NBA TEAMS ever. The Lakers and the Celtics are the best NBA CLUBS/franchises ever, obviously...

Nowadays Messi is a great midfield while Cristiano is the best striker over the world.
Trololol, suuuure.
Messi: 29 games, 31 goals (4 penalties) and 8 assists
Suarez: 31 games, 24 goals (0) and 12 assists
Ronaldo: 25 games, 19 goals (6 penalties) and 6 assists

As it happens, not only Ronaldo is far worse than 2 'midfielders', but if you take out the penalties Ronaldo isn't even the best striker on his own team, as Morata has a better scoring average.

Stats don't lie!

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Ronaldo hold Portugal to the final
Debatable considering they won the final without him. We have proof that the Cavs without LeBron sucked really bad. We don't have proof of what the Thunder would be without Westbrook, but I suspect that with competent PGs they would not be anywhere as bad as the worst teams in the league. We actually have proof that Portugal without Ronaldo was good enough to win that final, because the won it, same as the Lakers without Kareem. It's so simple.

Thats stupid... Comparing basketball and football ?!

Put Westbrook in any team and he will still carry them over 50% win rate. Put Messi/Ronaldo in any La Liga team and with bottom tier teams.... Well they wont win 50% matches.

Football has 11 players. You cant win football match alone, meanwhile you can win basketball match alone consistently (as proven numeros times).

EDIT: Actually... Ronaldo would probably win more with those teams (at his peak)... Just because of his playstlyle. Messi (at his peak) was used to perfection, afterall he played with Xavi and Iniesta when those two dominated international scene with Spain (for six years!).

I personally like Messi playstyle more... He has this finesse in his game, something that Ronaldo dont possess. Ronaldo is more of a brute force and his stamina is unbelievable. He will wear opponent down with his athleticism (something that Nadal and Djokovic used to do at their peak).

There is also one thing I hate... When people say that Messi doesnt work hard or Ronaldo doesnt have talent... Like for real?

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Ronaldo hold Portugal to the final
Debatable considering they won the final without him. We have proof that the Cavs without LeBron sucked really bad. We don't have proof of what the Thunder would be without Westbrook, but I suspect that with competent PGs they would not be anywhere as bad as the worst teams in the league. We actually have proof that Portugal without Ronaldo was good enough to win that final, because the won it, same as the Lakers without Kareem. It's so simple.


Euro 2016

F group, last game vs Hungary. He scored 2 goals to tie the match and qualify Portugal.
1/2 Final, he opened the score vs. Welsh winning the eliminatory.

Debatable? I don´t think so.

If you know a tem with more than 11 (maybe 12) European Champions, who was won 2 of the last 3 editions, recognized as the Best Team of XX Century, please tell it to all of us.
Lolol look at Madrid fans holding on to those 50s titles and failing to understand the difference between team and club. Bulls '96 and '97, Warriors '16, Lakers '87 and '72, Celtics '86, Pistons '89, are the best NBA TEAMS ever. The Lakers and the Celtics are the best NBA CLUBS/franchises ever, obviously...


You can prefer Bulls or Lakers, but only C´s the best franchise:)


Nowadays Messi is a great midfield while Cristiano is the best striker over the world.
Trololol, suuuure.
Messi: 29 games, 31 goals (4 penalties) and 8 assists
Suarez: 31 games, 24 goals (0) and 12 assists
Ronaldo: 25 games, 19 goals (6 penalties) and 6 assists

As it happens, not only Ronaldo is far worse than 2 'midfielders', but if you take out the penalties Ronaldo isn't even the best striker on his own team, as Morata has a better scoring average.

Stats don't lie!


This is my favourite poitn LOL LOL LOL

Cristiano "little" performance:

Club

Manchester United

Premier League: 2006–07, 2007–08, 2008–09
FA Cup: 2003–04
Football League Cup: 2005–06, 2008–09
FA Community Shield: 2007
UEFA Champions League: 2007–08
FIFA Club World Cup: 2008

Real Madrid

La Liga: 2011–12
Copa del Rey: 2010–11, 2013–14
Supercopa de España: 2012
UEFA Champions League: 2013–14, 2015–16
UEFA Super Cup: 2014
FIFA Club World Cup: 2014, 2016

International

Portugal

UEFA European Championship: 2016




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