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From: 0verW1ng

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Date: 10/28/2019 4:38:24 AM
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I've been trying 6 players training this season and I have to say - stick with 4/5. Random subs and foulouts at the end of the game ruins the trainings. My drafted 18yo got 3 skill pops in almost full season because of this..

From: Alucard679

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Date: 10/28/2019 8:53:05 AM
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I believe you, even though for a couple of seasons I did train 6 players consistebtly. When I started playing this game I was advided to select only 7 players for match day and tell the coach to strictly adhere to the deep chart. Never one of my trainees was substituted even though I remembered they fouled out a couple of times. One good thing of playing in III Australian league is that there are many BOTS and weak players do not commit mant dauls.

Anyway, I would like to train a center, a power forward and a small forward and keep them for a long time. What are the skills that in your opinion I should focus on? I guess inside defence, outside defence, rebounding, block shots and inside shots. What would you suggest?

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301526.11 in reply to 301526.10
Date: 10/28/2019 9:39:24 AM
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7 players.... so, how's the "Game Shape" of all your non-trainees? :)

Anyways, I think even if I say that 3-position training isn't recommended because of very slow training rate, you'd still insist on doing it, am I right?

And since you can "consistently" train 6 players for 2-pos training, are you planning on training 9 players for the 3-pos training?

Last edited by Leo (Pilipinas U21 Coach) at 10/28/2019 9:53:15 AM

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Date: 10/28/2019 7:36:34 PM
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So if they fouled out a couple of times you couldn't have successfully trained 6 players ang given each player 48 minutes consistently every week. A Center and PF trains similar unless you want a unique skill set. You will probably train an inside oriented sf. I dont see you creating anybody special while sticking to 2 pos training. You can train 2 players and focus on 1 position training and make beasts for your team. Or you can have 5 good players at 2 position training not 6. It really depends on what you want to get out of training. Is it to promote to a higher division or just to be a decent team. Like i said in an earlier post you can still train 5 but concentrate on the 2 main trainees later on.

Last edited by Ob1 at 10/28/2019 7:37:17 PM

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Date: 10/29/2019 6:02:03 AM
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Just checked. Only one player, Altenbung, fauled out once. Hence yes, I consistently trained 6 players for 2 seasons.
The form was horrible. Nonetheless, you don't need form when all the teams in your division are computer managed.

I think I have been quite clear. I would like to train a center, a power forward and a small forward, so 3 players.
Three position training makes no sense, you lose to much.
What would you recommend as a skills needed for creating three monsters at these positions. Again, I am talking about 1 position training.
Thanks

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301526.14 in reply to 301526.13
Date: 10/29/2019 6:57:28 AM
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For you, 3 players are doable I guess. PF and C don't have much difference

If you still insist on training them all up at the same time, I reckon theoretically you need:
1 tall kid
1 shorter kid
1 kid somewhere around 6'6" maybe?

Spam One on one forwards until 12 for all of them

Then ID, RB, IS until wherever you want it to end. The tall guy should in theory pop faster.

Round it off with OD and JS for the PF and SF.

I think the common practice is outside first before insides? Not sure tho. But if you really want all three to grad at the same time, the this might be your best bet.

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Date: 10/29/2019 7:31:27 AM
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Assuming the 3 trainees are all above 6'6", yes, that's the common practice, outsides as early as possible because training guard skills slower for taller and older trainees.

If you want to train OD, you can just play all your trainees as PG, 48 minutes each. Here's the thing though. Since their ODs are low, they might foul out. I suggest you this...

Potential C - 48 minutes at PG on your hardest game for the week
Potential PF - 48 minutes on whatever game is left
Potential SF - 48 minutes at PG on your easiest game for the week

Reason for this is your SF and PF will need the OD more than your C...

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301526.16 in reply to 301526.15
Date: 10/29/2019 9:01:17 AM
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That's a pretty good idea. Might as well train the C anyway.

But you can also make use of defensive assignments right? Place the C back at C to defend.

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Date: 10/29/2019 9:42:53 AM
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I think off-position defensive assignments doesn't affect defense training. Correct me if I'm wrong though as I've never done it.

What I would do is to play the trainee bigs as PG both on offense and defense. Then, employ an outside-oriented defense like 3-2 zone or 1-3-1 zone to counteract the low OD team rating and possibly reduce the fouls on your trainees.

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301526.18 in reply to 301526.17
Date: 10/29/2019 1:25:30 PM
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Afaik off-position defensive assignments do not affect training. Hence it's totally safe to play your C at PG, then set it to C in defense.

3-2 won't work, as BB is not about ratings. Your opponent will still hit 100% of their 3s if they got good JS/JR and were shooting over your C who is playing at PG. Hence it's much safer to reassign him back to C in defense.

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301526.19 in reply to 301526.17
Date: 11/1/2019 5:37:26 AM
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I would much rather switch my bigs playing at the PG to the C position on defense in a 3-2 zone as experience would tell me he is much less likely to defend guards because of his court position on defense. He's most likely to end up guarding forwards and centers from there and get rebounds at the same time.

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