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but alba berlin could be also a example in the other direction, Alba Berlin have the most visitors in Europe but i believe you agree that the BBL is not an top 5 league in europe.

The same counts for lot of colleges, i am quite sure that most european leagues are stronger but american are loving basketball and the college sports system(which is quite cool i had to agree) andthats why the march madness competes with the NBA PlayOff in the number of viewers(and i believe they even had more).

He can make even 2M...
Still he can upgrade arena. Still he can relegate and make promotion to make supporters happier. And still he can buy few NT players to increase marchendise. And it's enough impact to break 1M border. Few weeks ago I bought MVP of WC final match for one week and my merchandise increases by 75k... So he can buy 20 NT Centers, they are very cheap on TL. He needs only 40 weeks to collect enough money to buy 20 NT Centers. It's less than 1000 seasons, it's even less than 4 seasons.
Of course he would waste money in this way but You would lose Your treasure... ;-)

I don't agree that small countries have harder way in B3. Venomous Scorpions, Sharman Globetrotters won B3 without big effort.
Please compare date of joining to BB. You joined in 2nd season, Deet joined in 11th season. And now he has 3-0 record in B3. After 6 seasons in BB. In big country more time is needed to promote from bottom to 2nd league. And please compare his current team to Your team 9 seasons ago. Even if he can't beat all other teams in B3 in this season, it isn't result of playing in small country. It's only effect of very young club comparing to other teams in B3. But after few seasons he will be able to upgrade team enough to win B3.

aight, but i didnt wrote that he would have a hard way to the BBB and maybe he can be a average BBB team for a long time and try to tank for a BBB title like the teheran dude 3/4 times a 10 seasons...but, and that what i trying to say and betting my balls for, never never ever be a team that dominate this contest for years..( if the same circumstances are like now of course )

..and what u wrote about his revenue is..sorry dude BS..no team in the BB world can make 2Million or more in a week..the thing with the NT players is also not that what u think it is..his country is aeh at the bottom of the chart..i promise that he can have 20 NT Players of his country but his merchandise isnt as hight as from a china team with two chinese NT players..and thats only the amount from NTs from his own country..he will get much less money if he is buying gaijins :-)

Cheers

Will

So he can buy 100 NT Centers ;-) He needs only 200 weeks to collect enough money, its still only 14 seasons ;-) It's less than 1000 seasons and it's even less than number of seasons since You joined to BB ;-)
100 NT Centers should be enough to gain 2M merchandise. If not he has tickets and TV contract (and it should be at least 700k).

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I see what your saying, but as I stated before, when the number 1 & number 5 ranked teams in a country play, for that country at least, it's a big game, which means the attendance should be higher, but it's not. The B3 is technially the best of the best, only Winners make it in, so the point of the B3 is to find out who is the best of the best. As this is a Db game shouldn't it be fair that all teams in this competition compete on the same level with there Income?

You send the Celtics to London & play a team there, the attendance would be higher than at the TD Ameritrade Arena.

It is doable, but unless you tank for 7 seasons, that's what I think VS did, you can't do it. To do that on a consistant bases like the regualrs do in the B3, is much harder to do, because of the lower income for smaller countries. (I know you don't need high paid players to win, but those players cost $3 to $4 mill a piece).
This is about consistent play, not win & tank. I think almost anyone who does it that way, with good decisions, could have a shot at the B3.


Last edited by ClipCap at 8/18/2011 9:04:25 PM

You can't do that with a team needed to get to the B3, for Cymru at least.

I'm 3-0 in B3 due to the draw I've had so far, again World Rankings aren't even worth showing.
As I've stated before, yes I can get to a certain point long before you can, seasons before, but with good decisions on your part you will over take me in the end because the Income rewards for you are higher than they are for me at the same point in my country.
What ever advantage we have being from smaller country, Enthusium, game shape etc, should be removed when playing a B3 game, so we can see who is best of the best. It's not a competition of country, we have NT games for that, it's a competition of winning clubs. I also think all games in B3 should be on a neutral court, but that's just me.

Last edited by ClipCap at 8/18/2011 9:05:28 PM

Why are you so obsessed over income and not see the truth....To take you where you need to be (for example national championship) you will require far less expenses.... Which would make your profits higher.

B3 is just an addition. It does not pay well and it is only bragging rights. 99.99% of all managers will never play in the B3. That makes it irrelevant to me regarding equality. Too much effort will be required to balance everything and stuff in order to be worth making that effort. Yes, to you it may be relevant and top of the top etc but it's how you play. You decided it is worth something to you. And if it means you have to tank seasons in order to win, then you will have to do it. At least be happy that you can do it here.

It is all a matter of your choosing...... So don't whine about your decisions. You chose to be competitive in this game (note the game part). Creators have decided this is the field of play so you will have to abide by their rules. Anything else is a matter of opinion. But it looks like the B3 rules are here to stay.

As I've stated before, yes I can get to a certain point long before you can, seasons before, but with good decisions on your part you will over take me in the end because the Income rewards for you are higher than they are for me at the same point in my country.

I don't agree because in my country I have 100 strong opponents. And I have to exploit more money to beat them. Promotion to 1st league is goal for many teams. For You it is start point...
Many teams in my country ruin their budgets in 2nd league to fight for promotion. They buy players with 600k or more salary, they train game shape. And how to beat them and develop quick simultaneously? If you train young players you develop team quicker but you have less chance to beat opponents. If you buy strong players you waste money.
And the biggest problem is that if few of these strong clubs in 2nd league will bankrupt, on their place appear new opponents.

You haven't these dilemmas. Therefore You can still develop Your team quicker.
Your adventure in BB is very easy. Without any effort You were in top-8 in Your country (I see in first season You played in 1/4 in cup and in 1/4 in league). You game was without difficulty. And now You have to face with first (little) difficulty, and You want to change rules. Of course You want to keep Your all previous (big) advantages. It isn't fair.
If You want to have higher TV contract - do You agree to be relegated to 5th division?
Game can't be the same for everybody. Small country means for example harder way for National Team, but easier way for clubs.

I have no idea how you can miss the point by so much lol

You have to use more money to beat them because you need more strength in depth, granted, so you can have that because you have the more income, I can't. Remember this is about competing in B3 not how easy it is in my Division over yours. As we figured out earlier, you do have more income than me if you make the right decisions. When you get to my point then you'll have more money. So at this point, how do I compete with you?
Again yes I can develope my team faster than you & I can get to the Div title or Cup before you, etc etc etc, but once you or another team in a larger country gets there too, I don't have as much income as them when it comes to playing in the B3, that's kind of the point I'm trying to make. Unless I am missing something, which is the title of this Post.
I don't really care if 99.99% of teams don't play B3, personally I don't think it's any where near that number, but it is the overall top prize, so, unless I'm missing something, I'd like to have a level playing field to compete on. Only Crazyeye has given any insight in to what I asked, rather than bitterness over me having it easier, which wasn't the point of this Post.
You & me went through this earlier & posted Incomes & I think even you where surprized at the difference.
P.S. bet Polish team lose a B3 game this week ;)

No. You are absolutely wrong. You have more incomes than me. Sorry, it's hard to talk with somebody who doesn't know how to count and who ignores facts.
To play in B3 we must firstly qualify to B3. So we can't talk about B3 without qualifications. It's like to talk about two teams in final when first played TIE in semifinal and 2nd played normal, and 2nd have claims because he has worse enthusiasm. Way in qualifications is important too, not only final tournament.
You have one of the highest incomes in whole game although You never won even conference in club history. And You write that Your situation is worse.