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i never see more then respektabel starting players, and if you start in a first division with teasm who play 2-3 Seasons(there are small countrys who doesn't grow or who grow slow), that won't be enough.

@somdestfinest: In high division you will get fans pretty fast in comparisation to high devisiions, so you will have more visitors then a german 4 or 5 diviision team and this is more then the promotion bonuses worth even when you run directly in league one- but i don't see the problem with that you play against other andorra first league teams not against german div 5 teams.

in Thai you can have a roster less expensive and win and take a lot of money because you have the same income of italian I division (ie)

so if we start at the same level after a season i remain at the same level and you become richer. It's clear now??

but you play against poor guys, and he play against equal rich guys ;) So it is fair in the end, the thai players have to put money on the club too, so they pay earlier higher salries and so on^^

At the end you could reach and comparable strength like a italian div one team, even like there opponents.

i think you missed to build your arena earlier in italy, which reduces your income dramatically and make you now less capable of acting.

And Thai will use their income to make their teams stronger, this means higher cost and jigher level in competition in their first league ... So they will become like other first leagues in this game.

And don't forget you don't play agianst thai teams, you play against teams in your country, who have a similiar progress. There is only one tournament where teams of different countries met, and when italy aahve stronger teams they will beat them if not the other team will pay salaries like the italian one ;)

if you do so you have to regulate this for every single team, which leads to a sitution that everybody has nearly the same income ;)

Or you punish teams, who ave a small sized arena in a league which build a lot, in a doubled time becuase he have less income today and gets and additional penalty for playing in a econical wealthy league. But if you do so, the econical aspekt of the game become pretty unimportant, because every team gets nearly the same income furthermore you punish teams who looked forward to have an wealthy team because they got a similiar income like a team who didn't did it and you also have to get back the investment of the arena -> for example the blacks(26226) who have the second expensive arena in the german bundesliga, they need to make additional 13 millions throug visitors in comparisition the cost of building.

Edit: think about the planing aspect,maybe you watch through the league and say, they make less income so we get low taxes -> it makes sense to build the arena ... Few days later you see, that 4 other teams build their arenas, and some selled their expensive player without buying new one which makes the team more wealthy and you get higher taxes - as a result you building your arena wasn't a good idea anymore.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 1/24/2009 8:25:39 AM

An Andorran first division team will begin with a squad of scrubs, like my team or an original German 1st division team did. They will also begin with however much money they give you at the beginning of the game. And they will begin with a 5000 seat arena. This is completely different than the German first division now.

I don't see how these two economic situations are the same. Merchandise sales are dependant on a team's success and the PR guy. TV revenue is dependant on division, and ticket sales are dependant on price and number of seats. Why will the new Andorran team have more opportunity to expand its arena? If a German team in the fifth division moves up they can get four promotion bonuses. An Andorran team can only get one. A German team will have more competition and so will have higher attendance % and thus more ability to earn. I don't know if these offset the higher starting division for a new team, which seems a valid point to me, but perhaps they make the figures closer than you think them to be.

This is the mistake,an higher competition will generate a lower attendence% because it is more probably to have a major number of matches lost in a season...

An Andorran first division team will begin with a squad of scrubs, like my team or an original German 1st division team did. They will also begin with however much money they give you at the beginning of the game. And they will begin with a 5000 seat arena. This is completely different than the German first division now.

I don't see how these two economic situations are the same. Merchandise sales are dependant on a team's success and the PR guy. TV revenue is dependant on division, and ticket sales are dependant on price and number of seats. Why will the new Andorran team have more opportunity to expand its arena? If a German team in the fifth division moves up they can get four promotion bonuses. An Andorran team can only get one. A German team will have more competition and so will have higher attendance % and thus more ability to earn. I don't know if these offset the higher starting division for a new team, which seems a valid point to me, but perhaps they make the figures closer than you think them to be.

the new andorran manager has more possibilities because he has the income of a I team, not of a V team
even if he's relegated to II he'll have the income of a II team, he'll easily have a succesful season playing against bots and he'll cash lots of money
eventually he'll expand his arena and finally he'll go to the market to spend all the money he's cashing, basically taking players away from me because i play in a competitive III division so i have higher salaries and lower income than him
i'm not saying "it's not fair!" because that's what it's supposed to happen to make sure andorran I division improves to become a "real" I division

now think for how many countries, how many teams this dynamic will be replicated. how long will it take to have in all the BB-world the equilibrium italy, germany and other few countries already reached? i guess it would take years (real life years i mean)

i think you missed to build your arena earlier in italy, which reduces your income dramatically and make you now less capable of acting.

And Thai will use their income to make their teams stronger, this means higher cost and jigher level in competition in their first league ... So they will become like other first leagues in this game.

And don't forget you don't play agianst thai teams, you play against teams in your country, who have a similiar progress. There is only one tournament where teams of different countries met, and when italy aahve stronger teams they will beat them if not the other team will pay salaries like the italian one ;)

i agree, but i "play" againts them in the market