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The funny thing is that, despite the new rules, he does not give a shit and he's still putting on sale 9 of those players. What a brave man, what a hero, what a COJONES. There's no official threat that can stop the heart of a true rebel.

Even funnier will be, if he sells one of these, the number of cheating reports he'll get. The BB website might even go down for a while...

On your assessment has big influence that they weren't being trained.

If they were being trained (gym lvl3 + trainer lvl5), they would be worth let's say 3M$ (maybe even more) per each on market.

So you're saying that if you trained a 19 year old guy with 50-55 TSP for 1 month (4-5 trainings) he would be worth 3M instead of 30k? If I'm generous, he could get 8 pops during that time (7 pops from 1on1 training and 1 GYM pop), but I think you know yourself that 19 yo guy with 55-65 TSP sold middle of the season is not worth 3M even with HoF potential and amazing skill distribution... So I think the issue is both transfer and not training them.

I'm not saying that you or any other team that has done this earlier have cheated but it's has been on a grey area as it requires taking advantage from newbies or not experienced and educated managers. Now BB's are informing in advance that this is now not on the grey area but forbidden and will be sanctioned so I don't see any problem with that when it's communicated and warned in advance and requires continuous actions.

I think you know yourself that your reasoning and justifications are just ridiculous and don't have any merit to what is actually happening in the market. You will figure out some other ways to make extra money in BB when this kind of action is forbidden so I wouldn't worry too much.

After understanding what the BBs mean with the day-trading problem for me its pretty clear that this is cheating and users that do it should be penalised. I will explain my self with an real life example.

Lets assume that instead of BB, the users that takes advantages of this method are investors with a really deep knowledge of the share market. They know that they can buy share from firms that 2 years ago have tremendous potential and rentability but at the end they didnt grow as much as they were supossed.

So lets say that this investor know that the real and actual value for a firm of this kind is 50k, but they buy it in other to sell the for 400k in a matter of one week to an eighty year old thats has NO knowledge of how the market works, the 80 year old just know that this firm use to have some rentability and belive the investor because he is a well known person with knowledge of the market. Do you think that this investor are not cheating? That they are not taiking advantage of others with NO knowledge in other to get more rich?

This what is going on in BB now, new users with NO knowledge losing all,or almost all their money, in an investment that can cost them to slow down their time to be in a good spot in BB for months of real life, just in orher that you get 200-300 k income from week to week.

So dont try to argue that what you guys are doing is fair or how the market works, you are fooling new users. Try to compete in a fair way.

Last edited by Villodres16 at 5/12/2022 3:09:07 AM

So you're saying that if you trained a 19 year old guy with 50-55 TSP for 1 month (4-5 trainings) he would be worth 3M instead of 30k?

No. It was about training them in new teams.

Guys, read posts carefully without emotions and respect time and another's opinions, please.

don't have any merit to what is actually happening in the market.

I don't agree. Support you thesis and try to buy perspective youngster with potential hof currently (suited to your training plans). Of course, you can hit occasion, but generally it's not easy now.


Last edited by kozlik4 at 5/12/2022 3:48:00 AM

I'm pretty sure Alonso used a wrong term for this whole matter - we're not dealing with "cheaters", we're dealing with a simple case of "abuse".

And we've already had plenty of such cases, like full scale tanking and the old case of day-trading. Were they considered cheating? Nope. Were they considered an abuse and an unhealthy feature of the game? Yep. So it got changed just like that.

You don't have to be a genius in economics, to understand that scalping should not exist. In the real world, you will get fined if you buy 30 tickets to Ariana Grande or whatever for 10 bucks and then sell them 10 days later for 300 bucks each. I bet such people also "understand how economics work" :D . The arguments given about this being ok are just borderline ridiculous.

Guy, don't try to suggest that I use my authority to cheat people, please. This is disgusting.

Do you know how e.g. stock market works and terms like: sharks, whales, fishes? You seem surprised that sharks eats fishes and you call it cheating...but it's how world works. Everybody are fishes at the beginning, but everybody can also grow up to be sharks. What's more you can be shark in some matter, but fish in others matters. Normal things. We don't know everything...but if we don't have knowledge we need to pay more.

Both of that players were meant to stay at my roster un order to rebuild my team. I have a group of friends here on BB that can tell you that its true.

Salvador sahuquillo was a player that just to stat i bought at 2 am le something like that and were supossed to be sold around 200k and 400 k. He was an spanish HOF 18 year old 218 cm with 11 IS and 7 un each ID, Reb and BS . In the time at muy club he Jump rebound Up to 10, ID 8 and plus 1 in passing. Did i make a bit of a profit ? Yes, butni was buildong my new guys and then move to some spanish trainies once i draft a good player. I have the training historial un other to back what I dais here.


Krusha spent another month in my squad before i decided to move from this trainies. 18 y HOF 201 cms, you know that they are not cheap and that the players that are in the concepto of the problema of the day trading are mostly older and always waaaaaay cheaper. Not 400 k that I pay.
His stats ?
7-5
7-5
5-2
5-4
7-5

As you can see thats not a rubbish player with high potencial. Thats a well rounded 18 y old that can grow. Hi Jump 9 in rebounb and 6 in BS.

So, No i'm not hipocrite. Your are doing populism trying to make me look that I did foul someone, and by the way Salvador sahuquillo was sold to an user active since season 6 and krusha to an user active for more than 6 seasons, two year of real life.

So dont even try to call me hipocrite in a desperate way to defend that waht you do os cheating. And of course if the BBs think that what I did was incorrent that I took advantage in aniway, i'm more than pleased to be penalised.