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126140.92 in reply to 126140.91
Date: 1/14/2010 1:18:23 PM
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Mentioning Jordan and Kobe in same sentence is disgrace to basketball but thats offtopic...
Kobe hasn't reached the level Jordan was at nor will ever reach it,hell he still hasn't reached the level of players who were worse than Jordan...but yet again that is more offtopic
But i just wanted to point this out

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126140.94 in reply to 126140.91
Date: 1/14/2010 1:24:41 PM
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Ok guys,I know I am off topic but...Best two way player is Kobe or Lebron???What about that Dwayne Wade guy???

I mean, he won a title with the leftovers of Shaq's great career and Jason Williams'...Kobe was the best role player in league history in the three-peat era,riding Shaq's back for the rings..He then got himself Bynum by leading his team to the lottery and stole Gasol from Memphis to make the Lakers again relevant..

.Lebron will become the next big thing after MJ but he hasn't done anything yet to even be considered close to Wade or Kobe(I respect Kobe's greatness,though),other than a sweep against the Spurs and an MVP award he never lived up to..

Edit:He was the real MVP last year,not Lebron..Anyone that doesn't see that either has complete ignorance of basketball and NBA or is just a Lebron/Kobe fan..

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126140.95 in reply to 126140.92
Date: 1/14/2010 1:29:51 PM
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Never said that he is as good as Jordan. I just consider him more clutch. I am not taking anything away from MJ. He is the best ever, and yes you are right of topic.

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Date: 1/14/2010 1:36:43 PM
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woah Kobe has no defense and he wasn't a 7 times nba 1st defense team. 3 times he's been on the 1st team and 2 on the second... he has complete offense.. no defense and its been proving some many times before


Except in real life, where he was indeed a 7 time 1st team All-Defense player.

The man can play defense, period.

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126140.97 in reply to 126140.93
Date: 1/14/2010 2:49:16 PM
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Lebrons D is way better since he was rookie but again he is nowhere near to Kobe's. He is physical marvel and maybe the most gifted player ever. Now he is just entering on his prime but he still have some holes to his game. I dont have any doubt that he can be even better than him. In my opinion right now he is not.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6nBQQ5LC88 Kobe latest buzzer beater against Kings.

Indeed some of the Jordans buzzer beaters are memorable. I cant forget that one against Utah and many others. What i wanted to point is that Kobe its up there when we are talking about clutch shots.

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126140.98 in reply to 126140.94
Date: 1/14/2010 3:01:33 PM
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Come on. Calling Kobe as a role player, is the same like calling Jabbar role player just because Magic was better.

When you see how Mark Gasol is playing, and the other conditions of that trade you find out that it wasnt such a steal after all.

To win the MVP the 1st condition its not the stats. Its your teams wins and last season and 43 wins doesnt give you MVP's

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126140.99 in reply to 126140.98
Date: 1/14/2010 3:07:36 PM
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Yeah,sure Mark turned out to be good but when the trade came down,it was the most one-sided trade in history..No one could imagine that Mark was ever going to be that good..


Well,MVP stands for most valuable player so,Dwayne getting his team to 43-39 after a 15-67 season (without him) must have something to say about him being valuable to his team..Give him Gasol/Odom/Fisher or Big Z/Mo and he is the NBA champion again..

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126140.100 in reply to 126140.99
Date: 1/14/2010 3:13:03 PM
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Again this is how the MVP works. Thats why Lee will not be an All star or Zach Randolph.

Claiming that Cavs would be better with Wade instead Lebron its just insane considering his health issues that he has.

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126140.101 in reply to 126140.97
Date: 1/14/2010 3:37:06 PM
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How about Lebron finishing second and Wade third in defensive of the year award voting?
That should tell you something.

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126140.102 in reply to 126140.101
Date: 1/14/2010 3:46:18 PM
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Man i never said that those players are not great. They are. I just rate Kobe above them. Thats all.

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