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152631.924 in reply to 152631.923
Date: 7/31/2013 2:15:43 PM
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The 1-3-1 zone does lower the rebounding and inside D on his team but even with that, his rebounding was only a third of a level lower than your own rebounding and his ID was only one level lower than your IS. That means you were slightly better than him in those spots but his OD was sooooo high that it probably cut off a lot of easy shots for your big guys especially if they don't have very good handling. If you were to have even decent backups who can contribute more than 1 block and 4 rebounds in 30ish minutes, then you would have obviously won... So yes it is because you have no depth at the big man spots.

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From: Ulkar
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Date: 8/6/2013 5:30:24 AM
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I did win but after overtime and by 1 point, I don't understand how the difference can be so thin when I had hca and a team far better than his team, he just played normal while I tied but come on overtime and +1?

Last edited by Ulkar at 8/6/2013 5:42:56 AM

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Date: 8/6/2013 9:46:35 AM
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I did win but after overtime and by 1 point, I don't understand how the difference can be so thin when I had hca and a team far better than his team, he just played normal while I tied but come on overtime and +1?


My best guess is that it is related to you shooting 14-33 from the free throw line - if you had shot a respectable percentage you almost certainly would have won in regulation.

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Date: 8/7/2013 1:37:08 AM
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That means you were slightly better than him in those spots but his OD was sooooo high that it probably cut off a lot of easy shots for your big guys especially if they don't have very good handling.


Usually guards are chucking threes in face of great OD pressure from opponents, as they can't pass to bigs or drive inside. But this wasn't the case here: 9 threes against 1-3-1 and 16 threes against M2M. His starting PG chucked 5 threes and had one assisst, for god's sake...other than bad backups and HCA, I really can't understand this match. Away team should crash the boards, but it didn't - actually home team grabbed more off. rebounds.

The only reasonable explanation would be enthusiasm difference in favour of home team, but we don't know if there was one.

From: E.B.W.

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Date: 8/7/2013 6:01:53 AM
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Maybe that is the case but considering he never made a 3 and along eight the fact that his team only had 18 assists on 36 made baskets, I still believe it is because the guards couldn't find the big guys inside (18 assists is not that many... It isn't awful but it seems lower than it should be), it appears that a lot of the shots taken were not from good ball movement despite not all of them being from beyond the arc. along with this there is still the fact that his bigs had no depth so the backups hurt him. To me it is understandable why he lost.

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From: Koperboy

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Date: 8/7/2013 6:15:40 AM
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HCA and lack of depth, that might be the biggest reasons. But I sitll can't understand how come his centers didn't prevail in offensive rebounds. 1-3-1 is the worst in that department right after FCP.

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152631.930 in reply to 152631.929
Date: 8/7/2013 9:51:09 AM
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guys, i know that there wasn´t any lack of Motivation for my Team - we had at least the same Motivation. the guy against whom i lost, can´t understand the score either, but i have to move on.

still think, that the game engine Change is a huge failure, very weird scores since then, and so many fouls.

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152631.931 in reply to 152631.930
Date: 8/13/2013 11:20:04 AM
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Hi All,

I'm really confused as to why I lost this game.

http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/59461526/boxscore.aspx

If you compare our teams, I believe mine has far better players. I know you can't see individual ratings, but my players DMI's are much higher as are their salaries. To make matters worse, I put more into the game on 'Normal', so they played 'Take It Easy'.

I'd greatly appreciate any analysis and advice. As you can see, I'm not having a gripe, I just really want to know what went wrong so I can improve upon it.

Also, any idea why my coach kept my star players out at crucial times when I have 'strictly follow depth chart on'? Is there a better way to make sure my starters play, say 85-90% of the game, and are in at the end of quarters or when the other team gets on a roll?

Thanks.

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152631.932 in reply to 152631.931
Date: 8/13/2013 11:27:45 PM
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The main thing that steps out to me was the fact that he had 15 more rebounds than you and 17 offensive rebounds (that's a lot). As for individual players being better, that doesnt really mean that your team is better overall because of the bench and stamina and game shape and all other sorts of things that contribute to who plays better. By doing strictly follow depth chart it is the coaches job to substitute your starters when your backups will probably be more productive. This could also be a case of poor stamina, but I can't see the stamina for your players but i do not know for sure. Bottom line is that he rebounding you into the ground so although your team is probably a little better overall, with home court advantage he took the edge. I also think he has a bit more depth than your team.

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152631.933 in reply to 152631.931
Date: 8/17/2013 11:20:32 AM
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Your offensive tactic matched up well against his zone, giving you a big advantage offensively. But that's where the advantages end.

First of all, they had HCA, and their rebounding was excellent for the level of competition. It's a surprise that you weren't out-rebounded by even more. Secondly, your outside defence wasn't up to scratch and that's going to hurt you against a Patient offence, that preys on weak match-ups on the outside.

There was some bad luck involved as well; a referee who hated your team, and the opposition somehow managing to win OT despite the fact that they should've logically been dirt tired.

Ultimately, I think if you simulate this very game 10 times, you win 5 and he wins 5.

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 8/17/2013 11:20:57 AM

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Date: 8/17/2013 8:17:45 PM
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look at how I'm loosing to three players just shows you buzzerbeater is ... JUNK how can they even play should be a forfeit if you have less then 8! this game needs to get its s*it together makes new teams quit because of stuff like this or give new teams a couple player to compete

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