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169604.95 in reply to 169604.94
Date: 1/27/2011 6:25:01 AM
Młoty Stargard
PLK
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It's not the end.
Gadgets depend on STH?
Gadgets need a compensation

p.s. From my calculations show that I got for a small compensation for the tickets (about 80,000), but let it be ..

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169604.96 in reply to 169604.93
Date: 1/27/2011 6:59:08 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
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not giving them more bonus money with the fix would prob be a good start

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169604.97 in reply to 169604.96
Date: 1/27/2011 7:27:46 AM
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But you need minimum of two pieces of information to do that: the number of STH (which is now available, although I'm not sure if they still have the number at beginning of the season available!) and the ticket price information (which is perhaps the bigger issue).

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169604.98 in reply to 169604.97
Date: 1/27/2011 7:54:14 PM
Overall Posts Rated:
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the way i see the bug is if you demoted you were hit too hard , if you promoted you got to much of a bonus.

what im saying is let them keep the bonus they got , just dont now award them with more money with the bug fix.


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169604.99 in reply to 169604.98
Date: 1/28/2011 1:50:17 AM
BC Hostivař
První liga
Overall Posts Rated:
12321232
Second Team:
Jirkov
Strange situation in our Div I. Promoted team which sold out both of his matches (income $ 313k for each) because his arena is not ready for Div I received over $ 400k additional money ($ 200 k for each game) because of
all teams received the higher of their own revenue and their league's average revenue from each team in that league's two home games
Whilst another team (not promoted) got $ 432k and $ 420k for his matches and was given addition $ 12k.

With these data I don't understand why only some teams below league average got the league average. And especially I donůt understand why promoted teams got additional money because they received more money from the match because of first bug (if he is arena is large enough for league they play).

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169604.100 in reply to 169604.99
Date: 1/28/2011 5:04:31 AM
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169604.101 in reply to 169604.100
Date: 1/28/2011 5:22:55 AM
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Good job..
Thanks...

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169604.102 in reply to 169604.100
Date: 1/28/2011 5:24:34 AM
BC Hostivař
První liga
Overall Posts Rated:
12321232
Second Team:
Jirkov
$ 400k is really big bonus, especially if it wasn't done in fair way when some other team got almost nothing.
But I don't expect any other fixing as it would cause even worse result. The current situation doesn't look so bad even if some team got an advantage, situation before fixing was much morse as some team had great disadvantage which could have lead to bancrupcy troubles for them.
But I would like to make you think of all consequences at least twice in future when fixing some problems.

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169604.103 in reply to 169604.102
Date: 1/28/2011 7:57:00 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
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It's always possible to find a black sheep in a herd of whites, or a white sheep in a herd of blacks. Luckely even the worst affected team in your opinion has had a benefit. That can't be terrible, can it?

And yes, with every change we make some may be happy some may not. The amount of data we are able to gather as a BB Team, is a few million times the amount of data you are able to gather. This also means the BB Team has a way better picture of what's going on, fortunately. And this, of course, leads to the fact that we also have a better view of the possible consequences, and thus are able to draw better conclusions.

The way we fixed it is certainly fair for the far far majority and simply was the best available option.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/28/2011 7:57:50 AM

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169604.104 in reply to 169604.103
Date: 1/28/2011 8:10:13 AM
BC Hostivař
První liga
Overall Posts Rated:
12321232
Second Team:
Jirkov
And yes, with every change we make some may be happy some may not. The amount of data we are able to gather as a BB Team, is a few million times the amount of data you are able to gather. This also means the BB Team has a way better picture of what's going on, fortunately. And this, of course, leads to the fact that we also have a better view of the possible consequences, and thus are able to draw better conclusions.

This doesn't need to be true in general. Unfortunately, even with great amount of data there could be done very bad conflusions. Having great amount of data doesn't mean to be able to analyse them well and bad analysis lead to bad conflusions. This your statement totally misses a bit of self-reflection. Yes, you have done quite good job this time, but you still missed some aspects, so the job is not 100% perfect.
I can give you good example of self-reflection of your teammate (172332.13).

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169604.105 in reply to 169604.104
Date: 1/28/2011 8:33:24 AM
Overall Posts Rated:
506506
Unfortunately, even with great amount of data there could be done very bad conflusions


Of course, just the chance of being wrong with many data is considerably smaller than with your data. As I said, no fix is 100%, you are always able to find one percentile of cases that would or wouldn't be 100%.

I mean, you can keep complaining about literally anything, but until you finally realise no fix can be perfect it's an endless road.

Last edited by BB-Patrick at 1/28/2011 9:51:43 AM

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