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I agree....totally actually, thats why i did mention i would be happy to re apply for membership ( been playing this game for a while....) if i see an interesting new feature in the game.

I believe something new, refreshing and interesting would be a youth club and Not a new second team in a different country with player and transfer restrictions etc

I don't like this idea at all, even though some people would buy supporter package because of this option and it would help with BB finances.

There would be several reasons for creating a secondary team:
1: Creating a secondary team to compete and try to win trophies, so if secondary team is created for this reason, it is logical what Dodor said that people would make their secondary teams in strong countries cause it's more interesting and challenging.
Since supporters are mostly good/great managers, some of them will get to the first 2 divisions in Poland, Spain, USA or even Serbia in 5-10 seasons.Eventually they could win leagues and cups in those countries, and i just don't think that's a good thing.
2: Creating a secondary team to help your NT.Basically two managers from two different counties could make a deal to train each others players.
This would be some kind of legal farming.
They could also buy rival nations talents and not train them intentionally.
3: Creating a secondary team to help your friend.If two friends are supporters their secondary teams could buy players from friends primary team for unrealistic amount of money and that would not be considered cheating?
They could also train players for each other.
4: Creating a secondary team for experimenting, trying to make a team for outside or neutral tactics, train some different types of players with high JR or SB...This is fine, but than they should all play in "Utopia" with their own leagues and market so that non of the players from Utopia" can leave "Utopia.What happens in Utopia stays in Utopia!

some Question&Thinks

Q:
-India (is an example) has 28 Local Users. EGM (or others) accept 28 "foreign" users. One or more local users will become bot. What will be happend after it?

-Pakistan (another example) has only one active local user. I and EGM-Perpete (sorry, it's 3rd example) apply for having 2nd team in Pakistan. Who will manage 2nd team there?
For this, i have also a suggestion: During Grand opening of this 2nd team feature, if it will be activated, one week before the implementation, every one involved and interested can send a list of 5 countries where he wants to be placed: First X (related to country available seats) older ingame or with current longest supporter activation will be placed into that league. I hope i'm enough clear to explain my idea.


T:
-Still don't undestand if Users in "micronation/Small nation" just want to be alone or they're feared by eventually increase in competition. I can teach everyone how to use a Long term rivalry with the same team here on BB.

-I hope in a Modify of BBB limit.

-Stop Promoting Stupid ideas like Female BB.

-Stop promoting Stupid ideas like Utopia Country. I'm currently playing in a nation where there is around 10% of active BB Users, why i have to play with another X (actual Supporter number, i hope around 1000) team? For remaining other 12 seasons in the same level like with my first team? Bah!

Possible pros:
- small nation managers might welcome the influx of new teams, boosting competition levels

They may welcome that influx, but who? I personally doubt new managers will welcome that influx, they will found themselves in a division full of experimented managers without chances of rise to next division until many seasons have passed.

- might help reduce cheating

or it might increase... more work for gms could mean less attention and soft hand with cheaters

- doubles the fun for active managers

doubles the fun for *supporter* active managers

- increases BB income, increasing the advertisement and development budget

It will certainly increase the bb income, the advertisement (at least between supporters, dont think non-supporters will talk much about if its not for criticize it), no doubt about that, but it actually seems to me that thats the only thing this looks for, i would compare in real life to remove the middle-class, you give more to those who have more and you just give less security to those players who dont have supporter packs in this case giving them less space on their country leagues, less chances to grow up with their teams and more reasons to make them suspect about those 2ndary teams chances to cheat...

I must also say that i havent seen any non-supporter saying that he/she supports the idea of the 2ndary teams, that makes me think that this poll will be ruled by those who spend more time in the game wich 90% of times are supporters so i dont think im wrong if i bet that "yes" will win the poll.
It all depends on what BBs want, if making the tiypical clients more loyal or looking for more players forthe game, actually looks like the first option is what 2ndary teams look for.

Possible cons:
- some managers might not like to see foreigners in their country/league
- Supporters might have a direct advantage over others by having double the amount of matches to test their strategies on (even though they already have Private Leagues to do that)
- some countries might use the feature to collude in farming schemes

These are just few, but the ones i comment before are a good begining to think about.

Just to end with my contribution i will say i just think that making non-supporters pay 10$ or the amount you want is just ridiculous, you would make another class of supporters, it wont benefit supporters who will not receive well that and it will make those non-supporters pay if they want to have that chance. supporters = pay, non-supporters = dont pay.
I wouldnt criticize some ideas but dont lose the main point: Buzzerbeater is a free game.

I dont care about most of the suggestions as i think it has pros and cons as marin has said but i vote NO cause i think it will be worse for the future of the game.


Last edited by Permutado at 1/12/2014 6:07:43 PM

An Idea:

Instead of adding second teams to existing countries how about creating three new countries by time-zone. Asia, Europe/Africa, Americas.

All teams start in D4. Each season at the end of the season the best D4 teams move up to D3 and so on. Once teams achieve D1 then the D1 winner and Cup champion would be able to qualify for B3.

If space in the first 3 countries fill up then can create new ones.

How about you make the second team kind of like a minor league team? Where you can send your young players down to it for more playing time? And they only play in leagues with other minor league teams. Of course you can still set limitations to it but I think that would be pretty cool.