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From: Bballin
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Date: 10/2/2013 9:04:27 AM
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Here is a U21 game I stumbled on. (25685)

Chile has ratings and PP100 edge, yet Al Jazair performs better and wins on neutral court, with equal effort and what I can only assume was equal enthusiasm.

The rise of Motion? ;)

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Date: 10/2/2013 5:17:38 PM
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Underdog wins. I like it. It did help Al Jazair that Chile's leading scorer fouled out after 36 minutes, and the starting Chilean PG and C shot poorly.

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Date: 10/5/2013 1:21:21 PM
star4ever
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(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/62979466/boxscore.aspx)
It is not the 1st time when i am loosing games in this manner. the engine seems to go from worse to worse. No wonder people leave the game.

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Date: 10/5/2013 3:16:12 PM
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From what I can see, you lost this game because your starting SF and C chucked away, your opponents took twice as many FTs as you, your team had more turnovers, and you were on the road.

Last edited by Big Dogs at 10/5/2013 3:16:29 PM

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152631.958 in reply to 152631.953
Date: 10/6/2013 3:00:24 AM
Kira Kira Koseki
ABBL
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Second Team:
Yubi Yubi
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I don't want to sound pushy but I'd really like it if someone can please give me some input on what happened in these two ABBL games. It feels like I'm getting ignored here! Please take me seriously as a BB user!

Last edited by Jay (OTT) at 10/6/2013 3:00:53 AM

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Date: 10/6/2013 5:12:13 AM
star4ever
II.3
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my players were in strong shape, his were in mediocre shape. how is that my players chucked away but his mediocre players did not? from the ratings i would have expect to win...but the engine said no.

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Date: 10/6/2013 9:45:28 AM
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I'm as stumped as you are.

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Date: 10/6/2013 11:33:13 AM
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I don't want to sound pushy but I'd really like it if someone can please give me some input on what happened in these two ABBL games. It feels like I'm getting ignored here! Please take me seriously as a BB user!


The first one is just one of those games - the PF going 15-18 seems to be an aberration. On the other hand, there was garbage time for most of the fourth quarter for the road team, so their game ratings are reduced quite a bit from their actual playing strength during the part of the game where it was decided.

Second one isn't much of a surprise - a patient with an NT SG where he's matched up against a player with a third of his salary is a pretty solid mismatch, and the 2-3 helped shut down what appears to be a relatively low-flow (for that level) LI team.

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Date: 10/6/2013 12:00:31 PM
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my players were in strong shape, his were in mediocre shape. how is that my players chucked away but his mediocre players did not? from the ratings i would have expect to win...but the engine said no.


Your team only had 30% of their shots as open, which isn't much - though your opponent at 33% open wasn't in much better shape. And your opponent was running an outside offense with a 100k SG (in average GS), while two of the three anchors of your 3-2 are small forwards (in 7 and 8 GS) of much lower salary, indicating that they're not exactly stout outside defenders. Since 6 of his 7 three point shots were scored while one of those two players were defending them (the other over the backup Dordevic), that was definitely a weak spot for you. Combine that with a large number of turnovers (the primary culprit being a PF who has 12 assists vs. 111 turnovers for you since you bought him in season 23), and it's far from shocking that you lost. When neither team can really generate much offense through efficient passing, the one that has individual scorers that can hit contested shots has an advantage, and the R&G choice worked out perfectly for them in that regard.

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152631.963 in reply to 152631.962
Date: 10/7/2013 10:09:27 AM
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excellent analysis

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152631.964 in reply to 152631.963
Date: 10/8/2013 4:49:06 PM
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the match between manoire and dust my broom was wrong in some way. it is clear that there is an error here. although i play a center with solid passing skill instead of another one who is not good at passing at all, i've just recorded 10 assist. moreover, if my point guard who has 15 passing, finishes the match without recording any assist and my shot percentage remains that low, it is obvious that there is a mistake. it deserves to be analysed. if you have a look, i would be happy. i'm really wondering what you will think about it.

thanks.

(62578003)

Last edited by silsüpür at 10/8/2013 5:05:04 PM

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