BuzzerBeater Forums

in fact i would be ruthless as a starting team probably all but 1-4 of your starting players are worthless

a good way to start is look at every player whose salary is under $3500 click on them it is says their value is something like "rarely sells for more than a few thousand dollars" or "$1,000-$4,000" I would fire them immediately.

look at your team work out who is your best pg, sg, sf, pf and c that is 5

then who is your best backup guard back up sf and backup big man that is 3 more

finally who are your two best training prospects max 2 if they are not already covered

that is 10 players for the rest if they can be sold for $10,000 or more sell them if not fire them right away

do it you wont regret it

only thing you may wish to check is some guys to see if they are worth keeping with some experts

I just purchased a trainee.

*Sigh* I couldnt get some of the great trainees out there as a result of being a newbie and hence not having the abundance in cash.

For a little over 100k, I managed to pick up this guy:

Owner: Randomkings Allstars

Weekly salary: $ 4 090

Sylvain Clausse (11957426)

DMI: 11000
Age: 19
Height: 6'8" / 203 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: respectable

Jump Shot: mediocre Jump Range: respectable
Outside Def.: mediocre Handling: respectable
Driving: respectable Passing: mediocre
Inside Shot: mediocre Inside Def.: awful
Rebounding: average Shot Blocking: awful
Stamina: pitiful Free Throw: average

Experience: atrocious



not bad?

So, how should I approach training him?
Im doing a stamina session for the team this week and will be playing him in the scrimmage scheduled before training to get as many minutes as possible (and hence improve his training as much as possible). After that, however, I am wondering how he should be approached.

I dont have any other players remotely close to being worth training, so I might as well completely focus on SG and hence reduce the number of weeks he takes to pop.

I am hoping to get a stam pop and get him to awful in this weeks training. After that, Jump shot for a few weeks seems like the best option?

Thanks in advance.

Definitely get your squad down to a bare minimum. if you have 4 players more than you really need and their salary is on average 2500/wk, that's 10K a week going down the drain. And for a noobie, you want to really watch your finances to get your team going so you can buy decent trainees/players and expand your arena when necessary.

probably don't invest anything in the draft too at this stage so you can improve your finances.

As for your new player, the good thing is that he is 19 with good potential. The problem is that he is a bit too tall to quickly be trained as a guard (203 cm) and he is a bit short and has poor big man skills (inside shot, rebounding, inside def) to be trained as a PF or centre or possible SF.

He has OK guard skills so you should be training him as PG or SG. Considering his age at 19 and his height, train him i outside def to start as it takes the longest and if you train pressure (PG), he will pop quickly. Do one position training in my opinion to get his skills moving. But it all depends on how many other possible guards you can train in your lineup.

6'8'' is too tall?...

I had not anticipated that :(. So he will train significantly slower than say if he was 6'6''?

I plan to train him as an SG, but to get his guard skills up, I should probably play him in the PG position and then do only PG training (since SG directly cannot be done for pressure?.. I have to do PG/SG? ,.. which slows?).

So I will try to train his jump shot later, and will focus on outside defense.

I read that for SG, outside defense was not as important as Jump shot, Jump range, handling, passing.
I am assuming that you mentioned training OD as it trains the slowest for a taller player? (in comparison to handling passing etc).

However, for an SG, OD will be important so I guess I will have to play him as PG in a few scrimmages and get that OD up.

Thank you.

The way I understand it, he will not be significantly slower. I have heard that the guard skill that is the most affected by height (training time wise) is handling, and even then it's not a MASSIVE difference, but it is noticeable. I think the rest of the skills should be OK. So if you're going to train him as an SG, he should be OK.

And yeah, when you're training an SG, sometimes you'll have to make sure he plays 48 mins in the PG spot (i.e. pressure), even if it's to the short-term detriment of the team. Other types of training, you'll be able to keep him at the SG spot.

99% good advice, the one thing I disagree with is not spending on the draft. I would spend $10,000 a week to get two sightings. Seeing as you are in DIV IV and half to 90% of the teams will be bots your 2nd and 3rd picks can often be money in the bank and the only way a starting out team can really hit the jackpot. My 3rd round pick is valued at $70,000-$400,000 (although I don't really think he is worth that much) while my indecision about what to do with him has cost me a bit he will still pay for my scouting by himself.

For a starting team I think you need 1 solid player at each position, 2 young and good potential trainees and a level 3 trainer right away. You also want a small squad. As I said before somewhere from 11-13 players is best. Next save your money for a while until you can get either an excellent star player, a top trainee or a lev 4 or 5 trainer.

Actually, now Im thinking he will fit as an SF as well. Plus, I have a pretty decent SG, but my SF is not very good.

He shouldnt be bad for SF in height (same height as Lebron :P)

what is your basis to say if a player fits well to the position.

i think the most versatile player should be in the sf position but what gives it to indicate a better or less performance.

also tell me what kind of offense you plan to play.

This is how I built my team. Not saying that it's the best way or the easiest but it shows that with a decent well thought out plan you can make it to the ABBL. While it is completely possible to build a team by purely training one type of player continually as players improve their skills their salary does not increase in a linear fashion so you'll get less bang for your buck. The sacrifice you make is that it is not likely that you'll have any NT players. But to win games you'll need 10 good players so building up depth through training is the goal. Basically if you don't train one type of player (or single position) for more than 2-3 seasons you'll never need to get anyone with a potential of higher than all-star until you can really afford it which saves you alot of cash.

Season 5-7.

Roster purge to only have 12 players. Minimise wages. Arena ticket prices @ 75-80% of max. Build more seats when full. Advanced level trainer? Advanced PR? (Not sure if was a long time ago, and a couple of staff skill level changes) Competent Doctor.

2 Position Guard Training

Train 5 guards in 2 position training (three were from the draft, investing 10k a week). The highest salary from this was 21k. It would be even lower if I hand focused more on driving and handling. I was new and didn't realise how important they were. Due to the supposed link between potential and salary (all-star potential training is meant to slow down training around 40-65k.) The potential of the players did not need to be high (there's a 6th man and starter in there) as guard salaries increase slower than big man salaries.

Sort of went AFK during season 7.

Sold 2 guard trainees to buy 3-4 C/PF trainees. 3 of the guards are still in my team (Starting SG, Backup SG, Backup SF).
Also bought Starting PF with proceeds.

Season 8-9

Exceptional level trainer hired.
Exceptional level PR hired.

2 Position C/PF Training

Bought Starting SF due to my teams relative low salary and the massive amount of money earned in the ABBL.

Train 5 C/PFs for 2 seasons. This is tricky due to the way big man salaries work. They balloon must faster than guard salaries so make sure you don't train them for too long. Also, potential becomes an issue much quicker. The highest salary from my training was 40k.

Sold 2 of C/PF trainees. 2 of the trainees are still in my team (Backup PF, Backup C).
Bought Starting C.

Season 10.

Single Position Guard Training

Bought 3 SG/PG 19yo trainees.

This training cycle will likely last for 4-5 seasons.

So yeah that's my 2 cents. Feel free to note anything that doesn't make sense or is incorrect.

alright thanks..

Just one thing, are there any tools that help in increasing stadium? (I know I wont be increasing mine for a while since I just started, but I would just like to know).