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124105.96 in reply to 124105.95
Date: 2/20/2010 3:08:15 AM
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your player will take the best shots they could get, i think this implementation should stay and not be sacrified to a implementation wwhere a solid shooters pass the Ball if he is open to a guy who try to finish against three defenders.

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124105.97 in reply to 124105.96
Date: 2/20/2010 6:58:21 AM
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ok but i prefer that my sensational jump shot take a shot in front of 3 defender rather than my average one take an open shot...do you prefer a Bryant's forced shot or a kevin ollie open...i go with kobe don't t you?

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124105.98 in reply to 124105.97
Date: 2/20/2010 7:11:15 AM
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This game would suck bad, if only one player would shoot the whole game. Wouldnt it? I would take the open guy every day of the week.

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Date: 2/20/2010 7:11:20 AM
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but he didn't take all shots, right? Your good shooters will get more shooting oppurtunitys, but here they have a understanding what is the best for your team which si maybe not everytime the case in Rl.

So your Bryant would take the shot if it better, then the shots you normally get with your team offense.

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Date: 2/22/2010 10:50:57 AM
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ok but i prefer that my sensational jump shot take a shot in front of 3 defender rather than my average one take an open shot...do you prefer a Bryant's forced shot or a kevin ollie open...i go with kobe don't t you?


I would naturally go for Ollie and an open shot. That's basketball!

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124105.101 in reply to 124105.100
Date: 3/15/2010 8:50:13 AM
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It would also be cool if we could decide when timeouts would be taken and what tactical changes should be effected during the timeout. I could imagine some tool that allows us to set up before a game "If -0-10 run-, then switch -offensive system- to -run and gun- and defensive system to -man to man-". As mentioned before I already saw such a set up menu in a soccer simulation game.

With that tool weaker teams could sometimes surprise better teams by outplaying their tactics, though in the long term it didn't really change much. Weak teams still lost more often than good teams. It just gave the manager more tactical choices and made the better team managers to reflect well on their team set up before each game.


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124105.102 in reply to 124105.101
Date: 3/15/2010 10:18:56 AM
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The game is simulated 15 minutes before you actually watch it. This means that while you are watching it, the end score has already been decided. In other words, it isn't in real time, so you can't choose when to take time outs.

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124105.103 in reply to 124105.102
Date: 3/15/2010 12:03:34 PM
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I mean that you can set up the changes before the game based on a certain situation occuring during a game.

again for example you set before the game: "If my team 0-10 run then take timeout and change offensive system to run and gun, and defensive tactics to man to man".

That means i case the opponent team has a 10-0 run, automatically the game engine takes a timeout and changes the offensive and the defensive play as you had ordered it before the game.

Like this you could set up certain strategies before the game depending on certain situations (certain runs, difference in score, foul situation, maybe even depending on team stats during the game), and then when those situations take actually place during the game, the tactical changes you wished for are implemented, rather than have the game engine itself decide what should happen and where adjustments are made.





Last edited by Coach Ash at 3/15/2010 12:07:47 PM

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124105.104 in reply to 124105.103
Date: 3/15/2010 1:42:51 PM
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As usual you are not actually thinking your suggestions through. Let's say you have offence Look inside and Defence 3-2. Opponent plays Run and Gun and 1-3-1 defence. The opposing team is better than you. You have option of 0-10 run will call timeout and change tactics to run&gun + man2man. Now after that timeout your tactics are even worse. The game engine will make some small adjustments, that might be needed.
Let the game engine have something to do. We do not need to change tactics every time a starter is benched, you have 5 fouls in a quarter, there is 1 min left to play in a quarter, you just hit the FT, you have team manager wife in the stands.
Only thing we are missing is: having your starters play in WO situation for the +- push.

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124105.105 in reply to 124105.101
Date: 3/15/2010 1:51:45 PM
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such reactions makes it tough to react, why not staying with man to man and push the ball when you are undecided so that opponent have chanche to get you with the rigtht tactic instead of making surprises nearly impossible and just random.

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124105.106 in reply to 124105.105
Date: 4/6/2010 3:16:26 AM
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(http://www.buzzerbeater.com/match/9918/reportmatch.aspx?r...)

Just take a look at last minute of this match and say if there's something uncommon to basketball there.


I write here my opinion: are you kidding me? No time out before last attack? Shot with 4 seconds left on the clock then score is tied? What sort of tactics is this programmed to game engine? This sucks big time!
With my fantasy I can imagine such situation in real life... this can't be true? Low experience in U21? I don't think so. If this is exactly how BBs wanted to see the game end logic then I'm really disappointed. This needs to be changed and wish this will never happen again.

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