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If they added visible sublevels, that would kill the friday fun for me

Any manager using some kind of spreadsheet should know the minimum sublevel of the players he trained (and the maximum too, except you also have the cross training effect).

Besides it could be presented in a different way other than a number (like in the bar chart we already have) and it should be provided only for the main skill trained.

A lot of new managers have no clue about when to expect a skill to pop or even all the (secondary) skills they are going to train when they select a training regime. You may say that they need to put in the time and find out for themselves, but the reality is that the system is already complicated as it is without having to dig into it any further.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 1/22/2016 3:03:53 PM

The thing though is that this would help them to still be at the top so why wouldn't they want this to happen? I fail to see any logic at all behind your statement.

Because you're looking at it from only one viewpoint, or none.

In what world is to not be able to develop young players a advantage? If they actually could train they would have it easier when it comes to renewing their team as it gets older. And this would be a great benefit in comparison to how things work now.

That's my point -- it would benefit everybody, everybody would be able to train. Right now training is so f'd up that most managers cannot, or do not bother. All of a sudden there would be thousands of teams competing by training instead of just ten's (or to be generous, 100's). Some top managers see this and don't want the competition; they prefer to be big fish in small ponds. Some top managers would be okay with all managers being able to train because the game would be more fun with the added competition.

And I hadn't thought about it because I ignore tanking, but it would put a serious dent in tanking, too. Another good reason to reform training. Seems like every second thread eventually revolves around the need to reform training, even threads I do not participate in.

And please don't put words in threads and act like they're my own. I am capable of expressing my own views on things if I'm in the mood and have the time.

Yeah, but you were one of the supporters of the thesis that people tank because of training and I'm sure your posts are still out there.

I did it as a start of my plan in order to take a step back and train players without any pressure. I did it in the most favorable way for me as anything else would be like building a fire with 100$ bills.

That anything else would have made your league more fun for the other managers who were playing with you. Yes you all exploit the system because you can. So did daytraders. So did people buying trophies by building tens of millions of cash. They are no longer able to exploit the system the way they did. In short, just because you can do something, it does not mean it's right. It does not mean it doesn't have negative consequences for other people. It does not mean it didn't help creating this nice economic environment everyone is complaining about.

Feel free to judge as much as you like

Well...I invite you to check how and why my intervention here started.

In any case my point is that just because you think tanking is perfectly normal and acceptable and people should do it if they want to train, it does not mean we should agree that training is fine as it is and we just need to tank more to train more.

If we don't agree, it might be a good idea not branding us as top teams' little helpers and understand that we think about the improvement of the game for everybody. Since you said again that you tanked to build particular players, not having to lose most games because of it should make you very happy.

I got my race

You'd be better off buying my C with the cash you stockpiled.

Last edited by Lemonshine at 1/22/2016 7:33:15 PM

Is there any advertising campaign running?

I've seen the new users number increased up to 600 in the last 7 days.
Maybe who leads the game has finally understood where the problem is? Or is it just fortuity (hope it isn't)?

Where did you see that increase?
Seven days ago, I logged 20267 users compared to 20223 today.
I use the entry page before you log in as my source for total users.

Just the regular spike of fake accounts that try to steal draft picks.

The number that you report is about the total number users. I'm talking about the last 7 days new subscribers. 600 has naver been reached in the last 12 monthes, we were about 350 in the last weeks and never more than 450 during the last year.

Where is that information published?
I'm just curious because I haven't been aware of it.
Thanks.

...and never mind, just found it.

Last edited by Iguanadon Joe at 1/24/2016 2:42:59 PM

Here's an update:
I stopped my daily tracking of user numbers in January, and just assumed they would continue declining at the slow rate they had been since I began tracking last August (typically less than -0.25% drop per week).

If that were the case, even with the ups and downs that typically take place, we'd be under 20K users by now, and about 2% below where we were when I halted my observations.

But that didn't happen.

There are as many users today as on a typical Saturday back in January, actually higher than at least one Saturday in January.

I'm not sure what has caused this reversal of trends, but I like it.