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Then why some trainees that play exactly 48 minutes week in and week out easily reach proficient game shape? Don't give out your opinions as facts if you can't prove it.

ok try having all your players at 48 mins then... and compare it to the minutes I described 60-72. we can see the GS rise and fall...

I mean...dude...these guys are making a game for us for free unless you bought a supporter package.

i dont know how many of you actually pay for this game, i didn't so i aint complaining.
i believe the GMs are trying their best to make this game better and better

you just can't have everything perfect.
even 2k is not perfect with all those bugs....at least BB can fix those bugs when it occurs LOL

Oh, please! Spare us your fake self-righteousness.

I'm sure that there are proper tools in place making sure that training and changes of game shape are calculated properly.
What were those guys' game shapes before the training update and what after?

By the way, maybe your rival even trained game shape in order to improve it for the playoffs? That's always possible and you can't check it.

Yes, the minutes you mention are good but there's still a big random factor in place, whether you like it or not... For the first half of the season I've had big problems to get game shape higher than 8 on my players, so what? In the second half I was more lucky.

And now you can still say that the update was wrong and if you're lucky one of the BB's will check exactly your case but I'll bet that the calculation will be correct...

Of course. How could BB's be wrong? BB's are never wrong :-)
By the way, what is with today's playoffs games? Ah, right, we'll have a little delay there; no big deal ;-)

Last edited by Kumboky at 10/22/2011 2:06:55 PM

No. I would pay 20 dollars for 6 months.

You're amazing.

I'm sure that there are proper tools in place making sure that training and changes of game shape are calculated properly.
What were those guys' game shapes before the training update and what after?

By the way, maybe your rival even trained game shape in order to improve it for the playoffs? That's always possible and you can't check it.

Yes, the minutes you mention are good but there's still a big random factor in place, whether you like it or not... For the first half of the season I've had big problems to get game shape higher than 8 on my players, so what? In the second half I was more lucky.

And now you can still say that the update was wrong and if you're lucky one of the BB's will check exactly your case but I'll bet that the calculation will be correct...

Of course. How could BB's be wrong? BB's are never wrong :-)
By the way, what is with today's playoffs games? Ah, right, we'll have a little delay there; no big deal ;-)

Well... I don't see how your post justifies an answer but here's one anyway...
I said that the BBs are always right?
Any of the BBs claim that they're always right?

If you answer those questions with yes, you seriously need to improve your reading skills.

All I said is that the training update is one of the processes in this game that's supervised the best and mistakes in there would most most most probably be detected because other processes depend on that and wouldn't run either.

Why, thank you for honoring me with an answer then; though, if I may be honest with you, I really don't understand why since you made it perfectly clear that my earlier post was a pure garbage (and yes, I know you didn't use the word "garbage" either, but have you ever heard of term "figure of speech"? Yes? Good.)
As for my reading skills, I think they're pretty good, thank you very much :) You, on the other hand, need to learn to read between the lines a bit better ;-)

Why, thank you for honoring me with an answer then; though, if I may be honest with you, I really don't understand why since you made it perfectly clear that my earlier post was a pure garbage (and yes, I know you didn't use the word "garbage" either, but have you ever heard of term "figure of speech"? Yes? Good.)
As for my reading skills, I think they're pretty good, thank you very much You, on the other hand, need to learn to read between the lines a bit better ;-)

I have no idea where you see me attack you but anyway.
What's your secret between the lines that I missed?

I apologize if I came out too aggressive in my last reply, but really, your I-don't-see-how-your-post-justifies-an-answer-but-here's-one-anyway post wasn't too friendly either :-) Don't you agree?
Anyway, what I was originally referring to is the line where you say the following:

... And now you can still say that the update was wrong and if you're lucky one of the BB's will check exactly your case but I'll bet that the calculation will be correct...

Well, of course they will say that everything is fine. Why would anyone cut the branch on which they're sitting :-) But the thing is everything is not fine; just go to bug forum and see how many complaints are there. Even if 99% of them were completely unreasonable and just plain wrong, which I doubt is the case, there would still be dozens and dozens of perfectly reasonable and justifiable complaints. Now, out of those, how many times BB came forward to admit that mistake might have happened on their end? Well, I'll tell you - very few times. Unless the bug is so big that there is absolutely no way to hide it, they will not come forward and admit anything, and you know that. Everyone knows that; there is no need to play dumb :)
In example, numerous times my line-up would be messed up, and guess what? No one ever responded to me with "yes, that is our fault and we apologize for that; let us see what we can do to compensate you for your loss." No, sir; the only response I would ever get is "nope. Not our fault. You must have set it up wrong." And not to get me wrong, this is just one example. As I said, just go to the bug forum and you'll see how many different things went wrong with this game over the time.
Also, in that first post of mine, I asked you about recent game delays, but you just skipped that part. For "some" reason, you find it more appropriate to question my "reading skills" than to elaborate on why people can't watch their semis. To me that is an attack, but don't worry, I'm not offended. Yet :-)

But, the bottom line is, I don't wanna argue over this. I said what I had, and that is it; I'm not interested into further polemic. Someone just closed the other thread I was participating in, and I just can't afford to be accused for yet another closing :)

Ok true, sorry for those lines.

Everyone knows that the lineups can be messed up due to the website. I can't recall any officials claiming that this part is bug-free but I don't read every post here

Regarding game delays, I just found that to be a rhetoric question not actually expecting an answer. Well, those delays suck, of course, I haven't seen any official say that they're fine with the current situation or that they don't see the mistake on their side...

Someone just closed the other thread I was participating in, and I just can't afford to be accused for yet another closing

I closed it because insults started flying around; your posts weren't the direct reasons (they were indirect however). Your posts are a bit provocative and sometimes they stray needlessly from subject on hand to something you could continue over private messages. If you find the target that grabs the "opportunity" you presented to them...then the threads close



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