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As long as nothing is changed for the lower skills there should be no problem reducing salaries. The problem is for the good players when they change from prodigious to stupdendous and it raises the player's salary by 50K (slight exaggeration)

No the problem is that no-one wants to even confirm that certain teams are run as secondary accounts for the benefit of national teams.

Anyone with the capability of training a player to these high levels knows the likely salary increases of skill ups at the top levels. Everybody also knows that until the taxes completely disappear and the top teams have built up to 25,000+ arenas, the only place currently it makes sense to 'house' or 'farm' the best players in the game are with those teams that have been purposely set up to look after them.

No the problem is that no-one wants to even confirm that certain teams are run as secondary accounts for the benefit of national teams.

because 99% of it are most likely normal teams, who ave fun to help the NT - so far i want to tell it from the german point of view ;)

And i think one east european country had farmteams, and they are deleted. But before you have enough money to be a farm team you have to play long time with several teams - and i can not believe that guys make that.

No the problem is that no-one wants to even confirm that certain teams are run as secondary accounts for the benefit of national teams.

because 99% of it are most likely normal teams, who ave fun to help the NT - so far i want to tell it from the german point of view ;)

And i think one east european country had farmteams, and they are deleted. But before you have enough money to be a farm team you have to play long time with several teams - and i can not believe that guys make that.

maybe these teams were deleted because the DON'T play for long time,but have the money for being farm temas only with irregular transaction,this thing is different from a user who plays for a lot of time but now he cannto spend time on BB and so leave his teams to the NT staff
Apart that i think that the problem is that maybe BBs don't want a player with a trpile 20 in main skills,but prefer that centers traineers,at a certain way of the development of their player,trained also backcourt skill...

,but have the money for being farm temas only with irregular transaction,this thing is different from a user who plays for a lot of time but now he cannto spend time on BB and so leave his teams to the NT staff

i know such teams from HT, and i can say it only for germany swiss there - and germany here ;)

This teams are still played from this players who own thems before they thinking about quiting, and around 30-40% sell them after an while and starts playing seriously again(HT experienced currently we have no team like it in germany but we searching to motivate quitters to play further with NT players) . And say thing that they are happy about it, and now are motivated again to play it conservative.

And if they multi acc delete it, that illegal even today so we don't need an extra rule for it.

Last edited by CrazyEye at 5/12/2009 8:27:25 AM

No the problem is that no-one wants to even confirm that certain teams are run as secondary accounts for the benefit of national teams.

Not too put too fine a point on it, but this is crap.

Running "secondary accounts" (i.e. multiple teams) is cheating. All cheating reports are investigated. Any user can report a suspected cheater.

Do you actually know how many multi account users does BB have? I stumble upon 1-3 every day. I try to make time to report all of those. I try to look for atleast one cheater a day in estonia but in the meantime looking on my old players+some other transfers and usually stumble upon a multi account. Most of those have been actively trading not one but 3 seasons. So even without looking I see atleast 1 cheater outside estonia per day.
+ the farm teams are extra careful to cover their tracks.

Do you actually know how many multi account users does BB have? I stumble upon 1-3 every day. I try to make time to report all of those. I try to look for atleast one cheater a day in estonia but in the meantime looking on my old players+some other transfers and usually stumble upon a multi account. Most of those have been actively trading not one but 3 seasons. So even without looking I see atleast 1 cheater outside estonia per day.
+ the farm teams are extra careful to cover their tracks.

I don't know how many multiaccounts there are, no. I don't understand what your point is.

Number of banned cheaters this week: 125

I guess they work on making the game cheater-free.

First, my not-so-serious point against farm teams. I refuse to let my players play against a bunch of animals!

Second, my real point about farm teams. They are too far removed from reality, and in my mind detract from the overall experience with this game. Yeah, yeah, this is not reality (you mean it's not?), and there are plenty of things that are clearly not realistic, so we just have to use our imaginations and look past those sorts of things. But a large idea, like the existence of teams that sucks egg, but somehow manage to have developing superstars playing with a bunch of bench warming rejects and they develop into a Michael Jordan and LeBron James lookalikes in this environment is too hard to fathom as possible.

So, that being said, I'm not going to suggest how to prevent this from happening since that's already being discussed in this thread. I'm just going to state that it is my opinion that the existence of this unrealistic situation is hurtful to the game overall, and if can be fixed, it should be fixed. A lot of time is spent getting the stats of the players, the flow of the live games, and so many other elements to be realistic. One of the qualities of this game to be a simulator of some sorts. Things will never be perfect, and some things will always be far from perfect (players don't have contracts, etc.), but first we need to acknowledge the shortcoming, and then figure out if and how it can be improved.

And I will state, once more for emphasis, my team will absolutely, under no circumstances, play against any animals! Not even the Detroit Pistons!

superflys crys up every to weeks about a farm team ;)