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nobody was talking about players with extra's.

said by gm-lord of doom , i think i just found a few posts that were recent about exactly that. yes the thread didnt start about what is and what isnt over paying on players with good secondaries , but the thread did evolve that way through healthy debate.

correct.

I also explained why the last posts where obsolete (in regards to what I have been trying to say in the first place), and as such I was referring to the posts before the last post, to be exactly the posts it all started out with.

Let me be clear that a manager bidding extra on a player with extra's will not be the only one doing this.
But it's totally besides the point.

I'm glad at least a few got the point. I think I'll have to be satisfied with that.

A last request: please return on topic again. This thread has gone wild. The discussion will be endless as too many people are talking about to many diffrent things.
If there is someone who wants to continue the discussion, that's fine, but please open a new thread for it then.
Let's get this one back on tracks.



Last edited by Lord of Doom at 2/3/2010 3:04:57 AM

So if the price range is 4-6 mil you would pay 7mil but not 12mil. That is my point.

You are the one not getting my drift. A player that has a transfer range of 700k-1mil, if he is then bought for 2mil -> is cheating 99.99% of the time. Do you understand that this thread is not about which kind of C or any player I prefer. It's about the transfer estimate and how it works. If you train passing on a C, it will raise his price in experienced players eyes, but considering TL price estimate, training 3 inside skills will get you into a higher price range.
Training passing is like buying a new stereo system in your car. You know you will never get the money back when you sell the car.

i under stand everything you have said,clearly you have not understood what i have said and what ihave responded to, i suggest you go back and reread my last 2 posts.

If you train passing on a C, it will raise his price in experienced players eyes, but considering TL price estimate, training 3 inside skills will get you into a higher price range.
Training passing is like buying a new stereo system in your car. You know you will never get the money back when you sell the car.

this is exactly what i disagree with.
as more and more managers see how important secondary skillsare for inside players in the new game engine there prices will go up while old style centers prices will go down. this is the point im trying to show you, buying a c or pf now overpriced will most likely be a great move as they most likely will be worth so much more in a season or 2
with that ive said what i needed to say and wont be replying to any posts tha dont move this conversationback towards the original post as reguested by the gm

Last edited by zyler at 2/3/2010 6:25:48 AM

ah, don't be too harsh. when i first started this game, i, too, fell in love with the TL -- lotsa moves -- the challenge of finding a bargain intrigued me -- i've learned by trial and error (still on trial, many errors). if he is serious about this game, and really wants to improve, i am confident he too will find out the relative value of training versus the TL

You will refrain from making any sort of accusations in the Help threads. If you feel that someone is cheating, you should report it using the appropriate means.

i cant agree with this 100% of the time

i remember ages back i saw a guy on the transfer list who had strong in several skills but was really bad in some other key ones but i figured he would be an excellent defensive stopper

he was a bit old and had horrid potential

the computer said he was worth about 20-40k

i bid 20 and thought i had a chance

i checked later he was at 40 so i bid again

next time i checked he was at 80 so i went crazy and bid 100 now certain he was mine

i was stunned to find he finally sold for 200 while i was offline and at the time i probably would have paid that much for him but i have to say i was scared of getting in trouble even bidding 100 for a 40k player and that may have stopped me

i also had a player when i first started who was a really servicable backup pg that the computer said was worth 1-1 but he was fine for me and i would have happily paid 50k for a similar player (maybe with a better JS)

all i am saying is the computer estimates are sometimes way off

I think TPE is just plain stupid..Take these two players for example..Player 1 is the player I bought with a TPE of 2.6 million..Got him for 2.1 million.
Giuseppe Ginestra (5794709)
Center
Owner: Kitakyushu

Weekly salary: $ 34 186

DMI: 127500
Age: 24
Height: 6'9" / 206 cm
Potential: perennial allstar
Game Shape: strong

Jump Shot: average Jump Range: awful
Outside Def.: inept Handling: inept
Driving: inept Passing: inept
Inside Shot: prolific Inside Def.: sensational
Rebounding: prolific Shot Blocking: strong
Stamina: atrocious Free Throw: inept

Experience: awful

This second guy was in the bin at the same time so I cut and pasted his stats.. He had a TPE of 3.5 million and went for 2.6 million

Center Aljoša Ilgo (9680862)
Current Bid: 2.66 million..Team name left out
Auction ends: 1/30/2010 11:28:38 PM
Owner: shower one


Weekly salary: $ 28 049
Age: 20
Height: 7'5" / 226 cm
Potential: star
Game Shape: proficient
Jump Shot: mediocre Jump Range: atrocious
Outside Def.: atrocious Handling: atrocious
Driving: atrocious Passing: atrocious
Inside Shot: wondrous Inside Def.: prominent
Rebounding: prominent Shot Blocking: strong
Stamina: atrocious Free Throw: inept

Experience: pitiful

I know this player is only 20 but it would take more than 5 seasons to get him to the level of the player I bought..5 atrocious skills...OUCH

So here is my question...Which one would you buy and who is worth their TPE? peace

Good point i gather the TPE would have been affected a lot by that Wondrous IS on the 2nd guy