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That's an interesting thread
In France, our name database is composed by names from immigration. And that's closer to reality.
In my mind: if the BB want something typically and only belgian/french, would they have put black faces in the belgian/french databases? I don't think so. I think they want the db to represent the belgium in its reality. That's why we find all the faces in our databases and we should find all the names of our countries in our databases.
Otherwise, all the black faces will have typically and original french/belgian names? not realistic.

In France, our name database is composed by names from immigration

Just some clarification...
- are these immigration data used to update/add the names?
- are these immigration data used to determine the percentage used from different databases?

In my mind: if the BB want something typically and only belgian/french, would they have put black faces in the belgian/french databases? I don't think so. I think they want the db to represent the belgium in its reality. That's why we find all the faces in our databases and we should find all the names of our countries in our databases.
Otherwise, all the black faces will have typically and original french/belgian names? not realistic.

I'm not sure to have been clear enough. I'm sure BB wants to represent namegiving in Belgium as close as possible to the reality! But why did they created this percentage (use of different databases) if it wasn't the intention to be used (and is used in fact)? Name-creation in Belgium uses for a certain percentage also West and East-African name-database (as France is also using the West-African and some others).

I would also like to quote GM-Lord of Doom again where he explains the essence quite clear (He was already GM in the earliest times ans was able to folow these devellopments rather closer then most of us)

the names database is programmed to have a mix of names from diffrent databases, and the developpers have taken info from the internet with the populations of the countries to know how much% of each database they should use for each country. So if we put non-Belgian names in the Belgian database, the mix would not be right anymore, there would be too many foreign names, because they would have x% foreign names from theother databases, and then have an other y% of foreign names from our own databank.

nice you have taken an italian example as my last irl name is an italian one ;-)

I must admit I do not see the problem..
I think we're mixing up two things:
- the databases with different types of names: french ones, flemish ones, german, italian, arab, west-african, east african, .... names. (this is the list we're talking about in this topic)
- the belgium list used for namegiving for our newly created players. This list contents as wel french, flemish, arab, dutch, english, Greec, Italian (yes: Elio and Enzo included....), turkish,.....names, and these names all mixed up in a certain percentage based on internet info.

I wasn't there when these rules were implemented so I didn't folowed eventually discussions about this. But thinking somewhat further on:
- if we have f.i. a name list of first names starting with E, and we have to add 2 italian names in a list of 100. Which italian name should we choose: Enrico, Eugenio, Elio, Enzo, Ettore, Emilio, Eusebio, Ernesto, Ezio, Edgardo, Ermano,... or still another? don't forget we can use in this example only two names in order to keep the balance. Therefore a list with italians names is very usefull, as names can be altered and every name gets his chance (some note: some frequent used names are encoded in these lists twice or more)
- lists can be adapted to the actual situations in namegiving

ok, I tried to explain.
Angi tried to explain.

you just don't read what we write. So I'm done discussing this.

if the French have put Italian and Hongarian names in the French database, that is a mistake they have made.
We will not drown ourselfs because other did it before us.

If you have no clue how the BBs intented and have programmed the game and their databases, and you refuse to read, or understand the posts explaining it all, then it is worthless continuing on this subject.

I also deleted a post of yours because it was not following the forum rules.

I started this thread as a gift to the Belgian community, so they could contribute, and even more, because it gave them a nice opportunity to add something personal to the game.
If this topic proves to become a point of discussion, where people try to get names added that don't belong there, then it will be closed, and we will maintain the databases as it started out: only by LA's

Thanks for understanding, and everyone please read the start of the topic before adding more rubbish.
Thank you all.

Oneil is a name that belongs to USA, not to Ireland. The Irish version of it is O'Neill.

What you are taking as example are names of people who went from Ireland to the USA hundred or more years ago, what we are talking about are immigrants who are only 30 years or less in Belgium.

The same with the French immigrants in Canada, they became a independent nation/people. Unless you say the e.g. almost all the British immigrants live in one part of our country, with Englisch as official language, then you can say, hmm okay let's add some of the British names to our database.

Last edited by !ngkor at 9/26/2012 3:01:35 PM

... or how to make an elephant out of a mouse...

Really, what are we talking about here?
Naming of new players in a online game is not 100% accurate?
Let's make a big fuss out of this...

I feel it's more a discussion for the sake of having a discussion rather than the content of the discussion itself.

99,9% of all managers are quite happy with the way things are going right now if it comes to naming new players and appreciate the fact we can add names through this forum thread.

My 2 cents