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From: ned

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166665.99 in reply to 166665.96
Date: 12/22/2010 6:56:54 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
Well, I've just pointed out my thoughts and I really think that being 4th is not worst than being 5th, so I can't see so a dramatic situation or that this change is so bad in this sense.
In fact, I've seen last seasons how team who were going to be 3rd or 4th, sold part of his rosters before the economic update, to spare money and gave an easy win to 1st and 2nd teams. Now, some of these teams could wait till the match knowing that if they lose, they will still spare a week of salaries.
Could it be a better solution? Well, maybe, but trying to find one with the data we know is very difficult
Anyway, maybe when I see how much the TV contract will decrease, I change my mind and start complaining, xd


;)

Don't see only under the economic point of view, is simply really bad to see teams that want to lose intentionally.
Is not a drama but it could be done "little bit better" :p

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
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166665.100 in reply to 166665.97
Date: 12/22/2010 6:59:14 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Slaytanic
Come on ned, step trading could almost make up that 400k difference!! Don't tell me you've lost it!!


If only I had started to do that when you started I won dozen BBB

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
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166665.101 in reply to 166665.100
Date: 12/22/2010 7:00:37 PM
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Come on ned, step trading could almost make up that 400k difference!! Don't tell me you've lost it!!


If only I had started to do that when you started I won dozen BBB :D


:D

I still reckon a Japanese team will lift the BBB again before an Italian team... fancy a wager?!

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166665.102 in reply to 166665.101
Date: 12/22/2010 7:05:40 PM
Freccia Azzurra
IV.18
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Second Team:
Slaytanic
Come on ned, step trading could almost make up that 400k difference!! Don't tell me you've lost it!!


If only I had started to do that when you started I won dozen BBB


:D

I still reckon a Japanese team will lift the BBB again before an Italian team... fancy a wager?!


No no, I want to save my money, we can change Japanese with Barbados?
I need to sleep, tomorrow I've to work and I cannot choice to arrive in the 5th place

1990-2022 Stalinorgel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pV-Xppl6h8Et
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166665.103 in reply to 166665.102
Date: 12/22/2010 7:09:03 PM
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Come on ned, step trading could almost make up that 400k difference!! Don't tell me you've lost it!!


If only I had started to do that when you started I won dozen BBB :D


:D

I still reckon a Japanese team will lift the BBB again before an Italian team... fancy a wager?!


No no, I want to save my money, we can change Japanese with Barbados?
I need to sleep, tomorrow I've to work and I cannot choice to arrive in the 5th place :(


The only reason I don't have the Barbados flag is I'm scared that the IP address will reveal a link to my Japanese team... don't tell me you are the other team!! How about we alternate BB3 titles once we hit $50mil...

PS. How close are you?? Do you want to go first?

:D

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166665.104 in reply to 166665.94
Date: 12/23/2010 4:19:24 AM
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If teams decide to lose games in order to finish 5th instead of 3rd or 4th, that's solely because they fail to plan their economy further than two weeks and only look at the short term, instead of planning your cashflows longterm just as basically every other strategy like training. As a manager, I'd be happy to see my surrounding teams make bad choices and give me the 3rd or 4th spot in order to finish 5th. Maybe I'd even be able to win a title once then!


Having a short term strategy can be a legit way to reach your goals... If your team is ranked 4th and you made a big aquisition to be competitive in the playoffs and suddenly get unlucky and two of your key players get hurt, 5th place might be a very lucrative option to save you loads of money.

I somehow miss the proof that finishing 4th and getting a part of your expenses refunded +1 training game is financially better than freerolling the offseason and finishing fifth.

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166665.105 in reply to 166665.104
Date: 12/23/2010 5:47:10 AM
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Do you REALLY believe that this was the best way to fix the issue of 5th position?

This is economical situation is my league:
League Average Net Income: $ 14 078
(I personally have a negative net income of 39k)

During the 2 weeks without salary this is what will happen to the team classified 5th (assuming for him the average merchandise, staff salary and scouting):
Staff Salaries: $ 45 234
Merchandise: $ 56 399
Scouting: $ 9 687
TV Contract: $ 138 482
Net income in the two weeks without games: $ 139 960.

Unless I am missing something here, how can that be reasonable?
Ok, the TV contract will be slightly smaller, but if you don't pay salaries when you don't have official games why should you receive TV contract when you don't have official games?

A further suggestion: the salary suppression should only be valid for players already in the team BEFORE the PO transfer deadline, not for those bought afterwords.

Last edited by Newton07 at 12/23/2010 5:52:15 AM

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166665.106 in reply to 166665.105
Date: 12/23/2010 6:51:10 AM
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What about the idea of Gate Receipts for the entire league being divided up per win?

This would encourage 22-0 at the top even when 18-4 would be good enough and it would mean that the competition for 3/4/5/6 would remain fierce as you win a larger part of the pie per win irrespective of finishing position. If you add benefits in to teams due to promote this sounds like a great solution AND one that will reward the relative strength (and penalise the relative weakness) of large and small country communities.


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166665.108 in reply to 166665.107
Date: 12/23/2010 8:35:50 AM
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I'm not sure to understand what you said, but where is the incentive to build up a big arena if you have 15 others teams to do this at your place ? Rather than invest in arena, everyone will invest in players waiting the money coming from other's arena.

Or your division is not for all season's game, but a part that you did'nt define like PO/Pdown game ?


the arena income also comes in the regular season, so that a bigger arena could mean more money. Especially because many team already don't have hc games in die off season, or just one. Even when i don't like this idea that much too, but i cann't say why ;)

Last edited by CrazyEye at 12/23/2010 8:36:19 AM

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166665.109 in reply to 166665.108
Date: 12/23/2010 8:41:39 AM
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nvm

Last edited by juscious at 12/23/2010 8:42:49 AM

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