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Date: 11/18/2020 1:43:11 AM
Hemet Hooligans
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Do some players have a hidden foul tendency? Or are fouls mainly a function of matchups, the game engine and good old-fashioned luck? I have a player who has fouled out 5 or 6 times this season. It seems to happen more when I play him, normally a point guard, at small forward. Quite often he's overmatched, so I would presume that as I train him and he gets better the fouls should come down. That is unless some players are just foul prone? Any info would be appreciated.

From: ned

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Date: 11/18/2020 2:03:28 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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Yes, there is an hidden skill about fouls, so an aggressive player will continue to make a good number of fouls. Rumors say that you may solve this problem having high defenses but personally I've some doubts.

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Date: 11/18/2020 2:36:29 AM
Hemet Hooligans
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It that's true that's very bad news. I have a 20 year old point guard, Superstar, 80 skill points, that I have drafted and spent considerable time on. I guess I could sell him for a nice price? Though I'm not sure I want to do that yet. I also have an 18 year old, MVP, that I've been training right along with him though. Hmm...things to consider. Thanks

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Date: 11/18/2020 1:00:03 PM
Freccia Azzurra
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Well maybe you don't need to sell him but just consider to continue to train. The first matches after the draft are really important to decide the future of the draftees mainly due to this hidden skill. At least for me, the main problem is that I'm not able to give them 48 minutes but if a player is making a lot of fouls finishing often the matches probably I would give him some chances.

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Date: 11/19/2020 3:32:19 AM
BC Fobos
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Do some players have a hidden foul tendency?

IMHO yes.
Or are fouls mainly a function of matchups

Sometimes foul prone players foul out even against lucky fans or atrocious players.

From my experience, training defense and having better game shape helps. I tried that for both type players: guards and bigs.

Good stamina may factor in as well...

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Date: 11/19/2020 4:03:33 AM
Team Payabang
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Yes there is.. most call it aggression... and in being a Foul Prone their is also a side effect of being injury prone or giving injury to others prone... that Is why I love training my Rookie... just need to developed his Def more faster I guess... they say it kinda help

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Date: 11/19/2020 9:24:02 PM
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Training defense and SB as well as stamina will definetely help reduces that foul trouble issue. Theyll always get more fouls then the average player but iv encountered this issue several times and focusing on defense + shot blocking which ties directly into defense and stamina so they can maintain good form throughout the game helped everytime. They typically went from fouling out multiple times a season and averaging nearly 5 fouls a game to almost never fouling out and averaging about 3 fouls a game. 3 is still high and can be the difference between you winning and losing tight games so you should rememeber that but the foul issue can atleast be reduced.

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Date: 11/20/2020 6:47:59 AM
Freccia Azzurra
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Still not sure at all about the reduction: (41666671)

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Date: 11/20/2020 7:18:46 AM
Detroit Mercy Mavericks
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Your guy is block happy. Shot Blocking and Jump Range are important but dangerous skills unlike the rest because your player can get to caught up in them. I had a player with notably high JR and i had to get rid of him because he was shooting us into losses. He took crazy threes very often every single game and became problematic. Being too high in SB will result in your player becoming block happy like my guy was trigger happy from a lot of bad 3s. His exceptionally high SB almost negates his premier ID because hes playing unnecessary block attempts against some of the best players in the world at his own respective position. In D.2 and below you might get away with that but against the people your playing its backfiring. 15 SB is the highest id ever go with training that particular skill and playing at your level, having your ID right where its at with prolific OD and A slightly lower SB would probably, not definitely, do the trick in reducing his fouls.

In one of your matches he wasnt the only one to foul out as he and some one else had 6 fouls each and another player had 5 of his own. Thats just being outmatched from what it looks.

Again, hes block happy. Jump Range and Shot Blocking are weird like that from what iv observed from my own and other teams in this game. They're great skills up to a point and then they almost reverse and become detrimental. If your players already showing that fouling tendency that SB being that high is a nail in the coffin. I could always be wrong but i dont think i am here.

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Date: 11/20/2020 7:56:36 AM
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what you say almost cancels out why a lot of top teams in BB rely on shot blocking. More and more top managers prefer 3-2 zone and high SB skill and it seems that there is no such thing as negating ID. Yet, no unusual persistent foul trouble for their players.

From: Naeem

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Date: 11/20/2020 8:03:33 AM
Detroit Mercy Mavericks
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You mention 3-2 which is what i prefer but hes been using man to man with his PF. In 3-2 zones, high focus on ID and SB together works because your bigs are staying inside but with man to man its easier to be drawn out into a perimeter mismatch where its not so much your ID thats coming into play anymore, its your Not nearly as great outside defense and that high probability your going to try blocking the shot that those fouls can magically start accumulating fast. That might not be whats happening for him but thats my thoughts based off his previous games where he fouled out a lot

Last edited by Naeem at 11/20/2020 8:09:52 AM