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Date: 6/28/2025 12:01:40 PM
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Hello,

And welcome to the official forum thread of Home-Grown League, also known as HGL! I will be your league Commissioner also on Season 2, and will provide some information and links here in the first 13 posts of this thread.

I am very glad to announce, that Season 2, second ever season for HGL, will start on July 14th, 2025 and will take place during Buzzerbeater season 69! 1 season in HGL equals 1 season in Buzzerbeater, so season 3 of HGL will fully take place on season 70, and so on.

16 teams will take part in Season 2 of HGL, representing 13 different nationalities.
Defending HGL Champion on Season 2 will be Hadár's Svätý Jur Snakers from Slovakia.

Warm welcome to all participating managers, I'm glad to see you all to take part in HGL! List of participating teams and managers will be found from here: (327516.3)).

In the case you're wondering what is 'homegrown team', or how we define it, explanation can be found from 'a Brief compilation of essential aspects', below (and here: (326589.5).
But in short, the clue really is in the name - homegrown team is a team that has in their roster only players that they have drafted themselves, and/or players from their original roster that Buzzerbeater gifted/gave to the manager in the very beginning when they first started playing Buzzerbeater.

HGL is not a league created by Buzzerbeater developers/owners, so it's not officially affiliated to Buzzerbeater (so in one sense it could be said that Buzzerbeater is just used as a platform in which this HGL takes place). HGL is a Pickup (PU) match based league for homegrown teams only, designed by myself and some of the managers of Buzzerbeater Homegrown teams-community. More info on the story/history aspect of HGL can be found from posts below. Once again, thank you for all your valuable opinions and suggestions (and for the help and contributions special thanks to MrJ!) down the road, my fellow HGL managers!

If you are playing in HGL this season, please note that links to PU (Pickup) matches box scores will be sent to (and found from) another forum thread, here: (327517.1) (and not to other forums or to league Commissioners BBMail) to avoid overcrowding of this thread or BBMail.

So I'd politely (yet strictly) ask from you, that if you participate in the HGL, please follow all the other rules as well so that we don't have to start enforcing more and more stricter penalties in order to keep the league fair and fun for all.

In this forum thread most of the conversation about Home-Grown League, HGL, will take place. You are of course welcome to keep on discussing on the other forum threads as well, such as in 'Homegrown teams II' (324689.1).

However, if you have any questions or problems specifically regarding this league and wish to find an answer yourself, you may try to find answers to some common questions from these first 13 posts of this thread (and behind links provided in these posts), and from 8 first post of HGL Scores Season 2 Official Thread, here: (327517.1)

If questions or problems still persist after that, please send them to this official forum thread (and possibly also to my BBMail) in the first place, as it would likely ensure fastest reply times. While as a league Commissioner I do accept the responsibility for functionality (coordinating, communication, enforcing possible penalties for violations, etc.) for the league, I can't help but to mention that we have helpful and knowledgeable managers here in our HGL community, who are also very likely happy to answer your questions and try to help you resove problematic situations should they arise.

More information on HGL can be found from informative posts following this introductory post, in HGL rules section (below), and also from separate informative posts written by Swan River Serpents manager MrJ and myself (links found throughout following posts).

Last edited by Wagner at 6/29/2025 7:08:59 AM

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Date: 6/28/2025 12:02:08 PM
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Announcement 14.7.2025:

We are now ready with our match organization process for HGL Season 1!

I want to thank all managers from co-operation when setting up the HGL schedule, and wish you all best of luck as there's only less than 14 hours until the start of Season 2!


We had bit of surprises in a form of last minute team lineup changes, but I'm glad HGL is running with 16 teams on Season 2 as well. Some quality teams (in terms of salary) that participated on Season 1 aren't with us in the HGL anymore (especially Santa Eufemia Ducks and Heywood Big Dogs, silver and bronze medal winners, respectively), but we definitely got some quality teams to join for Season 2, so I think it's correct to say HGL is going to be more competitive than ever! Having said that, I haven't had time to calculate teams top8 players salaries yet, but for new participating teams I've calculated Season 1 salaries for top 8 HGL-eligible players, which are available at familiar places (for example here: (327517.3)).

As you all likely remember, 4 best teams in regular season will receive an automatic place for Second Round of Playoffs, and teams on positions from 5th to 12th will play on first round of playoffs, and teams on positions from 13th to 16th will not participate on postseason play. (Please remember though: even if you would be one of the teams that do not reach the Playoffs, you can not become non-homegrown team by buying HGL ineligible players, if you want to participate to HGL next season)!

Remember - naturally the better you finish during Regular Season, the "easier" opponent you will get on the First Round of Playoffs, so give it all you've got - few positions upper or lower in Regular Season could be the decisive factor on whether you can win your opponent or not! Being a lower ranked team you will always get an away match during playoffs, so it's best to do everything you can to get as high ORSR (Official Regular Season Ranking) for Playoffs as possible!

Now that we have plenty of new teams joining for Season 2, I'd like to take an opportunity and remind all managers that please inform me on your roster changes (purchases of HGL-eligible players a.k.a. your own draftees, player sales and dismissals) if they occur. I'll keep updating Season 2 salary listing (once that is created) and also keep a list of players purchased (and sold) by HGL teams, so that we all can be informed of latest roster changes in HGL (and how those affect to teams top 8-players salary levels, team "salary benefit", etc.).

Let's make this memorable HGL Season, and let's keep on the conversation on this Official HGL Thread!



Last edited by Wagner at 7/13/2025 6:07:05 PM

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Total of 16 teams will take part to Season 2 of HGL:

Match time (local time) | Team name (number) ABBREVIATION ||Country|| Top 8 salaries (Top 8 average age), Team manager

GMT+3/0=03.30PM Wagner College (172501) WAG ||FIN|| $284K (29,4 years) Manager: Wagner
GMT+2/-1=02.30PM Les Gueux du Marais (86508) LGM ||FRA|| $243K (27,1y) Manager: Coach Faz
GMT+2/-1=02.30PM Elan Demars (87312) ED ||FRA|| $306K (28,1y) Manager: demars
GMT+3/0=03.30PM BC Eos (122340) EOS ||EST|| $249K (23,3y) Manager: LennuK.
GMT+8/+6=08.30PM Swan River Serpents (197075) SRS ||AUS|| $80K (25,4y) Manager: MrJ
GMT+2/-1=02.30PM Madrid Chotis (76877) (D) ||SPA|| $236K (26,0y) Manager: Jotadoce
GMT+2/-1=02.30PM WiMaOlca (35977) WMO ||FRA|| $324K (27,9y) Manager: WiMaOl
GMT+2/-1=02.30PM Rajdersi (237760) RAJ ||POL|| $342K (25,9y) Manager: Paul George
GMT+2/-1=02.30PM Freccia Azzurra (27107) FRE ||ITA|| $237K (25,1y) Manager: ned
GMT+2/-1=02.30PM HÃ¥rdboll (26577) HB ||SWE|| $477K (32,0y) Manager: Spela
GMT+2/0=03.30PM Lielupes Melnas Sirdis (146915) LMS ||LVA|| $254K (22,6y) Manager: Monēta
GMT+3/0=03.30PM Suuret Muinaiset (172657) SUM ||FIN|| $435K (26,0y) Manager: cthulhu
GMT+2/-1=02.30PM Virtus Portici (47391) VPO ||ITA|| $473K (31,5y) Manager: SventraCanestri
GMT+2/-1=02.30PM Svätý Jur Snakers (172088) HAD ||SVK|| $742K (30.0y) Manager: Hadár
GMT+2/-1=02.30PM KK Stihija (44662) KKS ||BIH|| $525K (25,5y) Manager: Pihija
GMT-3/-5=10.30AM Club Trouville # (115547) TRO ||URY|| $244K (27,4y) Manager: Chucarro

Updated teams' Top 8-salary and average age information for Season 2 was calculated and provided by LennuK. (BC Eos) on July 15th, 2025.

Please note: Santa Eufemia Ducks has withdrawn before the start of HGL Season 2 (replaced by Freccia Azzurra, and Buckner Bandits dismissed and replaced by Swan River Serpents.
Replaced teams:

(Santa Eufemia Ducks (24340) SED ||ARG|| $637K Manager: GM-Enzo)
(Buckner Bandits (23579) BUC ||USA|| $98K Manager: T-Lit)

#=team name change during Season 1 of HGL; formerly team was known and joined HGL as Trouville BBC.

Top 8 salary changes during Season 1:
Rajdersi Top 8 salaries $301K in the beginning and $305K at the end of HGL Season 1.

Top 8 salaries during Season 1 (note: following teams didn't participate to Season 1):
Freccia Azzurra $213572
HÃ¥rdboll $464468
Virtus Portici $474584
KK Stihija $668718
BC Eos {*}$190521

{*}=Top 8 HGL-eligible players' salary.


Please note that during HGL Season 2 Daylight Savings Time (DST a.k.a. Summer Time) is observed in Europe, so it affects match times.

So for Season 2 Official designated match time for Season 2 is designated time for each team, which equals to 15.30, a.k.a. 3.30PM Eastern European Time (EET) Daylight Savings Time (DST).

In other words, you will play all HGL matches on Season 2 at your designated local time, that you can see on the above list before your team name. You will also use this time as a match time when you're responsible of sending Pickup match challenge. Naturally, when you are accepting PU challenge from other team, you need to make sure it's played at the same correct time (your local time) before you accept it.
Please let me know if you observe faulty time information on the above list.

Again, you all are warmly welcome to HGL on my behalf!


Forfeits and enforced penalties for teams on Season 2 of HGL due to violations, if any:
Currently none.


Last edited by Wagner at 7/16/2025 6:29:27 AM

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HGL teams' salary benefits and transfers on Season 2:

Formula: current salary of player minus salary when he was sold for the first time by a homegrown team in question. All benefits, plus and minus, are taken into consideration when calculating total team salary benefit value for the season.

Explanation on how to interpret player information:
|||D:Original. S:S17 $6474. PB:S29. CS $227=SB MINUS 6520 on Season 1|||)
Explanation:
-D=Drafted (which season player is drafted, or "Original" if he's one of original players
-S:S=Sold for first time:Season XX
-PB:S=Purchased back:Season XX
-CS $=Current salary $
-SB=Salary benefit ((which is PLUS if team gets benefit, and MINUS if team does not get benefit from transfer(s))
-"on Season 1" reflects to season on when calculations have last been updated.

Note:'Plus' means that team has gained salary advantage by purchasing back own previous players, 'minus' means they do not benefit from such purchases currently.

Team salary benefit on HGL Season 2 in total, and team Top8 wages of teams in question (if receiving salary benefit):

Table organized based on how much team gains salary benefit on Season 2 of HGL.

1. Virtus Portici: total salary benefit plus $245183 (team top8 wages: $473K)
19 players/Purchased players (own draftees): 9

(Player in question; his current salary; salary benefit due to transfer. For help on interpretation, see above).

Purchases:
(Di Natale $67538/week; plus $64562. |||D:S56. S:S57 $2976. PB:S65. CS $67538=SB PLUS $64562 on Season 2|||)
(Vanazzi $75678/week; plus $72502. |||D:S59. S:S59 $3176. PB: S63. CS $75678=SB PLUS $72502 on Season 2|||)
(Frega Natale $22215/week; plus $18436. |||D:S48. S:S49 $3779. PB:S60. CS $22215=SB PLUS $18436 on Season 2|||)
(Esposito $32671/week; plus $30126. |||D:S49. S:S49 $2545. PB:S57. CS $32671=SB PLUS $30126 on Season 2|||)
(Lasalandra $35551/week; plus $33375. |||D:S50. S:S51 $2176. PB:S69. CS $35551=SB PLUS $33375 on Season 2|||)
(Favaro $28011/week; plus $17730. ||| D:S63. S:S65 $10281. PB:S67. CS $28011=SB PLUS $17730 on Season 2|||)
(Molinaro $8468/week; plus $953. |||D:S47. S:S51 $7515. PB:S52. CS $8468=SB PLUS $953 on Season 2|||)
(Frosini $19082/week; plus 9449. |||D:S66. S:S67 $9633. PB:S68. CS $19082=SB PLUS $9449 on Season 2|||)
(Colaci $3527/week; minus $1950. |||D:S45. S:S47. PB:S51. CS $3527=SB MINUS $1950 on Season 2|||)

2. BC Eos: total plus $43489 (team top8 wages: $249K)
12 players/Purchased players (own draftees): 1
(Rannala $49672/week; plus $43489. D:S61. S:S62 $6183. PB:S66. CS $49672=SB PLUS $43489 on Season 2)

3. Rajdersi: total plus $112 (team top8 wages: $342K)
12 players/Purchased players (own draftees): 1
Purchases:
(Micula; $16476/week; plus $112. |||D:S56. S:S66 $16364. PB:S68. CS $16476=SB PLUS $112 on Season 2|||)

4. Wagner College: total minus $6520
93 players/Purchased players (own draftees): 1
Purchases:
(Mönkö; minus $6248. |||D:Original. S:S17 $6474. PB:S29. CS $226=SB MINUS $6248 on Season 2|||)

5. WiMaOlCa: total minus $24501
12 players/Purchased players (own draftees): 1
Purchases:
(Hurel $60162/week; minus $26537. |||D:S50. S:S60 $86699. PB:S65. CS $60162=SB MINUS $26537 on Season 2|||)

6. Elan Demars: total minus $115999
17 players/Purchased players (own draftees): 1
Purchases:
(Esnard $227/week; minus $115999. |||D:S16. S:S32 $116226. PB:S35. CS $227=CS MINUS $115999 on Season 2)

Transfers ("T+/-") and dismissals ("D-") of players (including salaries and "salary benefit" that team receives) during Season 2 of HGL (after June 19th, 2025) :

Virtus Portici
T+ July 16th, 2025: Guido Lasalandra, 36yo, $35551/week

(T+ means team has purchased back their formerly owned player,
T- they've sold, and D- that they've fired player).

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HGL Season 2 League table:


Updated after Round 2 (July 18th, 2025).

Team W L PTS +/- F
VPO 2 0 4 63 0
HAD 2 0 4 49 0
KKS 2 0 4 35 0
HB 2 0 4 32 0
D 2 0 4 28 0
SUM 1 1 3 53 0
RAJ 1 1 3 9 0
WMO 1 1 3 1 0
WAG 1 1 3 0 0
ED 1 1 3 -1 0
EOS 1 1 3 -7 0
LMS 0 2 2 -23 0
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FRE 0 2 2 -38 0
TRO 0 2 2 -51 0
LGM 0 2 2 -61 0
SRS 0 2 2 -89 0


15 rounds played in regular season of HGL.
12 best to playoffs; 4 best will earn a place to a second round of playoffs automatically.

W=Wins, L=Losses, PTS=points, +/-=scoring difference, F=forfeit losses.
2 points for a win, 1 for a loss and 0 for a forfeit.

Team abbreviations and links to team's own box score post for Season 2:

D = Madrid Chotis (327517.19)
ED = Elan Demars (327517.24)
EOS = BC Eos (327517.17)
FRE = Freccia Azzurra (327517.32)
HAD = Svätý Jur Snakers (327517.15)
HB = HÃ¥rdboll (327517.25)
KKS = KK Stihija (327517.21)
LGM = Les Gueux du Marais (327517.28)
LMS = Lielupes Melnas Sirdis (327517.23)
RAJ = Rajdersi (327517.18)
SRS = Swan River Serpents (327517.27)
SUM = Suuret Muinaiset (327517.16)
TRO = Club Trouville # (327517.20)
VPO = Virtus Portici (327517.22)
WAG = Wagner College (327517.14)
WMO = WiMaOlca (327517.34)

Please note: Santa Eufemia Ducks has withdrawn before the start of HGL Season 2 (and is replaced by Freccia Azzurra), and Buckner Bandits dismissed before Season 2 (and replaced by Swan River Serpents). In older, now outdated versions of Season 2 schedules, if you for instance have printed versions etc.:
SED = Santa Eufemia Ducks and BUC = Buckner Bandits.

#=team name change during Season 1 of HGL; formerly team was known and joined HGL as Trouville BBC.

Note, that box score links of matches will be copied to official schedule posts (here (327517.5), here (327517.6), and for playoffs here (327517.7)) from each manager's own box score posts, and only those matches on official posts are accepted as official HGL results.
(Match must start at the correct time, match number must be the same as in official schedule's copied links - in other words, managers can't change correct match links on their season box score post without approval or request by league Commissioner).

Please note, in the order of significance:
A) If teams are tied in points, team with less forfeits will be higher ranked, and
B) Teams tied for regular season points are officially ranked based not on scoring differential, but rather based on the result of their current season regular season match (winner of that match will be a higher ranked team).
League table will/might not reflect this correctly before the last regular season match (Round 15) scores have been revealed, after which Official Regular Season Rankings (ORSR) for Season 1 of HGL are being released, and playoff matches for that season will be organized based on aforementioned ORSR.
"In the order of significance" (above) means, that comparison is made in this order, if teams are tied in points.

PS. As you can see, Buzzerbeater text editor is utterly useless for tables such as this, and disagrees to accept previous formatting that text/table has had (completely ignores word or excel formatting), or even refusing to add spaces that I add between the numbers. For instance I hit space about 25 times between the uppermost lines' ("BIG") last and second to last zero, and while in this BB text editor it shows there's a considerable amount of space, in the actual post it seems as though I would've hit the space one time.

Tips are appreciated if you guys are more experienced with these league table/formatting/BB text editor issues, as I hope we don't have to live with these kind of messy tables for too long.

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TBA #6
(Links to essential HGL-posts.)

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Here's a brief compilation of the most essential aspects of the league, part 1/2:

Definition of a homegrown team used in HGL:

- As for definition of 'homegrown team', we use the definition by LOPO , the manager of CB Eliocroca, who to this date updates the original list of homegrown teams (list of teams found here: (324689.1)) and welcomes you to apply for the list, if you are a homegrown team!
So in short, with no exceptions:
A) no Utopian teams will be accepted to the league, and
B) you must have only players that were originally given to you (at the beginning when you started playing Buzzerbeater), or were drafted by you. You also may have purchased back some of your own draftees (if they have been previously bought by other teams), and still be counted as a homegrown team

- It's of utmost importance to remember, that it's necessary to be totally homegrown team in order to be able to participate in HGL. If you wish to participate in the league in the future, we also expect you to remain homegrown at least for the duration of the whole season(s) during which you wish to participate in HGL. Please be aware that strict penalties/sanctions will apply to teams that don't comply with this very essential rule of HGL

League system:

- Most thorough presentation of league system can be found from these 5 lengthy posts of mine here, this one being the first of 5: (324689.240) . However, if you first just want to take a quick look to get the idea, check out post by MrJ (link below) and/or keep on reading this post further

- TLDR; Brief compilation of league system used in HGL is found from post by MrJ that compiles my lengthy messages, here: (324689.248) (but short compilation also follows below)

- We'll have a lineup of 16 teams to participate for the second season of HGL

- All regular season games will be played on neutral court, and all playoff games on either home or away court (no exceptions!)

- The time window for organizing all regular season matches (at once) takes place approximately between semifinal stage of your regular BB league and "draft deadline day" (found from your team overview page)

- First regular season match of HGL will take place on first Monday after regular Buzzerbeater league has started (on other words, 2 days after the start of BB league, as first league match of Buzzerbeater is played on a previous Saturday).

- 2 matches per week will be played during regular season. First match of the week on Monday, and second on Friday, and 1 match per week during playoffs. Playoff matches will take place on Sundays every week.

- Please note a change to rules as of March 20th, 2025:
All matches in HGL start at 14.30 (aka. 2.30PM) Eastern European Time, EET (GMT+2).
When Daylight Savings Time (Summer Time) is applied in Europe, it changes match times.
So when match organizing window is during summer months, on those seasons official HGL match time is your local equivalent of 15.30 (a.k.a. 3.30PM) EET DST.

Teams are provided a designated local time in participating teams-list (before their team name, here: (327516.3)), which they use all season long when sending invitations to Pickup (PU) matches.
Please remember to use only this time given to your team, and nothing else, when organizing Pickup matches


- Out of 16 teams 12 teams (75% of teams) proceed to playoffs, and 4 best will be automatically awarded a place to the quarterfinal round (Second Round of Playoffs).

- All playoff matches are decided in 1 match, so playoffs is a single elimination tournament (like in NCAA basketball)

- All teams reaching semifinal stage are guaranteed a medal game, either gold or bronze medal match.

- In addition to basic rules mentioned throughout these informative posts, certain rules and penalties for violations are being enforced in HGL; more information on posts below.

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Here's a brief compilation of the most essential aspects of the league, part 2/2:

Pickup (PU) matches:

- All matches in HGL will be played as PU (Pickup) matches, so participating teams need to have Pickup tokens saved for the season so that they'll be able to send PU challenges to opponents. Theoretically it's enough to own 8 tokens in order to participate to HGL (but we recommend having saved 15 or more). You can always gather more during season by not playing other PU matches during HGL season, but all 15 regular season matches are organized at once before the season starts (no exceptions!)

- If you're not familiar with how PU matches function and how to organize them, you may want to check out a post written by MrJ, here: (326327.1). However, basic information on what is necessary to know about PU's and how they are utilized in HGL also follows as you keep on reading

- All regular season matches will be organized (sending and accepting PU match invitations) during one time window before regular season starts, and for playoff matches (for teams still in competition) every single week during playoffs

- It is of utmost importance to understand and remember, that every participating team arranges their own Pickup (PU) matches and also take care of sending box score links to appropriate place, on their own season box score post (links to posts here: (327516.5)) and are fully responsible in complying with these important rules which ensures the optimal functionality of the league. In other words it means managers are responsible for sending and accepting correct Pickup (PU) game requests.

- When sending and accepting PU challenges, it's important to remember that all regular season games will be played on neutral court, and all playoff games on either home or away court (no exceptions!). Please do not accept match with incorrect details as it won't count if played with wrong court setting!

- Managers are required to confirm on this forum thread when they have fully completed organizing matches for the regular season, and therefore can see all regular season matches on their team schedule/fixtures page. For the second season of HGL with 16 participants, this means 15 regular season (PU) matches for each team.

- Matches are organized based on the official league schedule that is sent on 'HGL Scores Season 2 Official Thread'

- In practice match organization window will take place approximately between your "regular Buzzerbeater league's" semifinal matches and season draft deadline (about 7-8 day period)

- One team is always responsible for sending the PU game challenge, and name of team responsible for sending challenge is bolded to a league schedule, so team with that marking besides their team name abbreviation knows it's their responsibility to send a challenge for that match.

- If you haven't received a PU match challenge/request from your opponent that you should have received, please send message here on this this thread. You may also send me BBMail so we all try to sort it out so that match will be played in time. (Sometimes it's worthwile to double check schedule to ensure if it was after all your responsibility to send challenge).

- Every team sends their box score links and scores of HGL Pickup matches to their own Season 2 box score post. In playoffs it is important to do this quickly after matches. (If you notice it being sent to wrong thread/post, please send it to the correct thread).

- If you also want to play other Pickup (PU) matches in addition to HGL matches, it is important that:
A) you save enough tokens for HGL playoffs (1/week), as non-Supporters get 1, and Supporters 2 tokens/week.
B) you send only HGL match box scores to the 'HGL Scores Season 1 Official Thread'.

More essential info in posts below ("Additional rules and penalties for violations"; 4 posts).

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Additional rules and penalties for violations, 1 of 4 (effective as of April 5th, 2025):

These additional rule/penalties posts (4) might appear long and complicated, but I think are only that for some of us due to conversatory nature and many examples provided.
Also some exceptions made for your convenience that lessen the impact of penalties, lengthen the rules.

However, there are practically only 4 additional categories on how one will get penalized:
A) become non-homegrown team during any part of HGL season
B) play too small roster, or cause a forfeit by dressing less than 3 players
C) not arrange or accept a correct Pickup match on time, which would cause match to be cancelled/postponed and/or leave another manager insufficient time to set lineups for match
(D) not sending PU match results to your own season box score post; possible penalties TBA)

Foreword on additional rules and penalties for HGL to come; if you want to jump straight into facts, go to the part "Penalty Levels" below.

As for rules and penalties for the HGL, opinions seem to differ vastly from one manager to another. I have always been (and still are) in a favor of (a lot) more strict and therefore simultaneously complicated rules and penalties, and while this is in a way major compromise for me - as rules/penalties are important part of league, ensuring functionality and fairness to all and effectively discouraging unwanted actions. - after having listened our HG communitys' opinions I have now made the decision to start HGL Season 2 with more simple rules and penalties (vs. my original rule proposition).

And as for penalties: Most of you guys have at least glanced through my earlier proposition of HGL rules (324689.336) (that post and 3 following posts, which actually is not even the whole proposed rule set) so you know there would've been applicable penalties planned for many other possible violation situations.

However, I can't stress the importance of being worth the trust, as functionality (and fun aspect of it - there's no fun in it if for instance people don't organize half of their playoff matches and they end in forfeits due to that; and in the worst case, we might not even be able to prove which team would be guilty of match not being played and which team would then proceed to next round due to forfeit in which case possibly neither of the teams couldn't proceed, and on next round team also would have a free ticket to next round as neither of those teams could let to proceed, and so on... I'm sure you guys see my point - commitment and trust is everything here).


Penalty Levels:

Please note: I have used penalty level numbers from my previously suggested rule set, in order to avoid massive reorganization of the earlier proposed rule set (which will not be applied in full to Season 2 of HGL), and to retain the possibility of taking parts of it easily into use in the future if need arises.
Therefore it might seem that some Levels of penalty (such as Level 1 and Level 6) seem to be "missing" from the following listing of penalty levels, meaning that we just don't apply them on HGL Season 2.

Level 2: 0-50 forfeit loss for the match in question.

Level 3: 0-50 forfeit loss for the match in question, and ineligibility for the current season playoff play no matter how good the team regular season success is. (In general, team is eligible continuing regular season play normally if it doesn't violate rules that trigger more serious penalty)

Level 4: Immediate disqualification from the current season, including playoffs; match in where violation occurred, and all the future scores for the current season will become 0-50 forfeit losses.

Level 5: Immediate disqualification from the current and for the full forthcoming season; match in where violation occurred, and all the future scores for the current season will become 0-50 forfeit losses.

Last edited by Wagner at 6/29/2025 7:20:43 AM

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Date: 6/28/2025 12:03:18 PM
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Additional rules and penalties for violations, 2 of 4 (effective as of April 5th, 2025):

Voting:
- Based on his discretion (for instance if it's a critically important decision that affects most/all teams significantly) is possible for league Commmissioner to arrange a voting.
About voting:
A) Voting would be announced on this HGL Thread, on 'Announcements'-post, here: (327516.2).
B) Voting is open for a restricted time (TBA; 14 days?) during which only participating managers of HGL could vote.
C) Depending also on whether a change we are voting about would be major one or not, it might be required that at least certain part of managers are voting for a certain option (for example: at least 3/4 majority, or 15/16, or 16/16 managers).
D) league Commissioner reserves the right to decide which issues are decided by voting

Roster changes and methods on how to inform on your own (and observed) roster changes:
- You can not become non-homegrown team (by buying HGL-ineligible players) on any part of the season, including whole duration of HGL playoffs , if you wish to participate in HGL on the next season. Becoming non-HG team will cause an immediate Level 5 penalty. (Certain exceptions that would only take effect after regular season has ended, and would only be meant for teams not reaching playoffs at all could be considered for further Seasons of HGL, but such rules won't be in effect at Season 2 of HGL).
- You are asked to inform league Commissioner before first regular season match of HGL, and during the season:
A) if you have purchased back any of your previously owned player(s) from other team(s).
If you have, please inform who/which players have you bought.
List of teams who have purchased back their previously owned player will be kept and updated by league Commissioner, with information on whether or not this team has received "salary benefit" by making such purchases. (This is legal in HGL to have purchased back own draftees, but listing of such players is being kept and updated nevertheless).
B) if you sell or fire a player.
This B) is not totally mandatory information for managers to disclose if you absolutely don't want to, but HGL strongly encourages/urges you to publish such information as it will make it possible for us to update top8-salaries listing, and also update such changes to official HGL threads so that all participating teams will be informed of any interesting changes that takes place within the HGL.

- Please remember: it is your responsibility to inform HGL (league Commissioner) of your roster changes, as league Commissioner can not (/will not in practice) check out all teams rosters prior to all matches.
This above mentioned changed roster-information can be sent as a post to this official Thread of HGL, or as a BBMail to league Commissioner.

All teams rosters (transfers, dismissals) will be updated throughout the season by league Commissioner and will be found from here: (327516.4).

- Violations (becoming non-homegrown) that are noticed later on will cause just as harsh penalty, starting from the moment violation is noticed.
Please note that any team, participating in HGL or not, are welcome to inform league Commissioner by BBMail or posting on this official HGL Thread, if they notice that:
A) team has purchased 'illegal' players (and therefore immediately becomes ineligible to play in HGL)
B) such illegal players have been dressed for HGL match (same effect as in A))
C) team has total of less than 5 players in their team roster (same effect as in A), unless corrected before 4th affected match of season)

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Date: 6/28/2025 12:03:26 PM
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Additional rules and penalties for violations, 3 of 4 (effective as of April 5th, 2025):

TLDR: This whole post likely doesn't apply to you, if don't have a team with very small rosters (7 or less) and are going to set up your lineups/tactics properly for each match.

Minimum roster depths and match lineups, injury exceptions and penalties for roster violations:


Important: remember to setup your default roster again, if you have sold/fired players, so that you will have enough players on your (default) roster for each match if you don't remember to set up each lineup separately for each match!

- It's necessary to have at least 5 players in your home-grown team roster in order to participate to HGL. However, if you run a team with such a small roster, you are risking separate penalties for not dressing at least 5, or not at least 3 healthy players to the match, which both have different penalties, A) and B), as follows:
A) not dressing at least 5 players: You must do all you can to dress at least 5 healthy players for the match; lucky fans do not count, but see exceptions below.
Level 2 penalty: 0-50 forfeit

Injury situation example #1:
You have total 6 players in your team of which 1 is injured, but you decided to dress only 5 players in your match lineup/roster (and leave 6th, healthy player out of the match lineup). In this example 1 of those 5 players that you dressed for the match is injured (replaced ultimately by lucky fan). So therefore you have had a chance to select 5 healthy players to roster, but have failed to do so, which will lead to Level 2 penalty, a 0-50 forfeit loss.

Injury exception/example #2:
Please note that for instance if you'd have only 5-6 players in your team and 1-3 of them are injured, it is possible/acceptable for that reason only (this exception applies only to absolutely necessary injury situations!) to dress also injured players to the starting lineup to fill all the 5 positions.
It is therefore possible to get away from this situation with only 0-50 forfeit loss, and without triggering more strict Level 3 penalty (see below, B)).
If you will, for any reason during season dress 0-2 players to the match lineup/roster, it will cause at the very least Level 3 penalty (ineligibility for playoff play for the current season).

B) not dressing at least 3 healthy players or
dressing less than 3 players to a match in total (whether injured or healthy) for the match:
Level 3 penalty; ineligibility for the current season playoffs.
And, if situation is not corrected by the team before 4th affected match of the season; Level 4 penalty - immediate disqualification from the season.
If you run a team with very small roster, please get at least a decent level doctor to minimize occurrence of such Level 2 or 3 penalties.

NOTE: If for any reason homegrown team has "accidentally" fired/sold player(s) and therefore have less than 5 players in their roster, and yet still would wish to participate in competitive play for the current regular season of HGL (they are excluded from the current season playoffs!), they can try to remedy this situation by buying back their own drafted players if they have sold/fired players previously.
In the case of firing, checking out transfer list immediately might yield results - if player(s) on the other hand has been sold, announcing your interest to current owner of the player to purchase him back immediately might yield results. This must be done practically immediately, as playing 4th match of the season with less than 5 player roster will cause immediate Level 4 penalty (out for the current regular season and playoff play).

NOTE #2: While 5 players is the absolute minimum for acceptance to/participation of the league, it is recommended that you'd have at least 6-8 players (and decent doctor) due to possible injuries affecting the league games and penalties as little as possible.

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