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324543.14 in reply to 324543.12
Date: 8/1/2024 10:32:42 AM
Black Light
NBBA
Overall Posts Rated:
127127
Second Team:
Capitol Hill Arrows
I do this too. At this point I actually train on the USA team only for nostalgia. In the current market, training a serious prospect is a financial loser (especially if they have to buy the player, but even if you draft them you have the scouting cost that's significant). Between the cost of the coaching, the arena expansions, and the hit in performance when you have to play a young guy 48 minutes in an important league game, you could only make your money back if resale prices were much higher. When you add in that you can buy transformative older players for pennies, training ends up being an impediment to winning, which is unfortunate.

When I rejoined the game, I decided that my USA team was going to go after every win and cut every corner, while my Utopia team was going to take it slow, smell the training flowers, and explore the different builds that the training system affords. If I wanted to take this to the extreme, I'd probably start training only Stamina on the USA team, but I can't let go of the Friday morning rush when I see the little up arrows

Last edited by Coco at 8/1/2024 10:35:17 AM

From: Coco

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324543.15 in reply to 324543.14
Date: 8/1/2024 10:41:43 AM
Black Light
NBBA
Overall Posts Rated:
127127
Second Team:
Capitol Hill Arrows
As a counterpoint to my earlier somewhat depressing post, here's an uplifting one. I purchased Quanfu when I rejoined and put 2 life-years of training into him. He was never going to be the elite of the elite, but I built him up enough that he's been a dominant force at PF for this level of league. And the fact that I trained him helped me get him to a point of salary vs. performance which is advantageous for us.

From: lvess

To: Coco
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324543.16 in reply to 324543.14
Date: 8/1/2024 4:17:09 PM
Delaware 87ers
II.3
Overall Posts Rated:
308308
You're absolutely right on there. Training your own players is not a money spinning strategy that's for sure.

I've always wondered how some managers seem to be able to regularly spend $2M+ on players, trainees or trainers. I've been here for 10 full years and never had more than $5-6M in my bank account tops. Even that required a complete firesale of every NBBA level player and semi-finished trainee I had.

I would love to start a project of completely homegrown players. However that was next to impossible to do in any serious way before the draft was juiced up in the past few seasons. There are so many interesting builds that could be pursued. Unfortunately, the limitation on number of trainees and the financial costs involved with training limit the upside of that kind of project IMO.

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324543.17 in reply to 324543.1
Date: 8/3/2024 11:06:50 PM
Navajo Nation Advent
II.3
Overall Posts Rated:
2727
Yes!! I totally remember you!! Did you ever win the top league? I feel like I remember you making it up there.

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324543.18 in reply to 324543.17
Date: 8/6/2024 7:29:56 PM
Arizona Cacti
II.3
Overall Posts Rated:
276276
Yea, I got lucky that my aging NBBA team peaked right as a couple other teams started rebuilding. Won 2 league titles and a Cup in a 3 season span before my guys got old.

Spent a handful of seasons in the NBBA since then but never with a top tier team again.

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324543.19 in reply to 324543.18
Date: 9/1/2024 8:53:03 PM
HipsterBears
NBBA
Overall Posts Rated:
1919
Second Team:
bowflex benders
GL to everyone in the playoffs! I'm pretty strapped for money, put my team in a bad spot, will have to make decisions right after the season. Then I look at the 3m sitting at my utopia team and ....sigh.

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324543.20 in reply to 324543.19
Date: 9/1/2024 10:03:13 PM
Black Light
NBBA
Overall Posts Rated:
127127
Second Team:
Capitol Hill Arrows
I fell just short of auto promotion with the two losses. But managed to be second in line for auto promotion, so if Deronimo II.4 were to win his league title, I'd auto promote.

In the playoffs ... I'll be a non-factor. I too put myself in a difficult financial spot to try to get auto promo (mismanaging the game against SK, plus an injury really screwed up the intended plan), so I knew I couldn't hold on to my team through the playoff (plus some guys had too many drops and weren't effective anymore).

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324543.21 in reply to 324543.19
Date: 9/1/2024 10:10:50 PM
Black Light
NBBA
Overall Posts Rated:
127127
Second Team:
Capitol Hill Arrows
I fell just short of auto promotion with the two losses. But managed to be second in line for auto promotion, so if Deronimo II.4 were to win his league title, I'd auto promote.

In the playoffs ... I'll be a non-factor. I too put myself in a difficult financial spot to try to get auto promo (mismanaging the game against SK, plus an injury really screwed up the intended plan), so I knew I couldn't hold on to my team through the playoff (plus some guys had too many drops and weren't effective anymore).

From: lvess

To: Coco
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324543.22 in reply to 324543.20
Date: 9/2/2024 11:44:44 PM
Delaware 87ers
II.3
Overall Posts Rated:
308308
Looks like it was me who knocked you out of that top promotion spot. Sorry about that. I wasn't expecting LI to be that effective given the changes to the GE/tactics.

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324543.23 in reply to 324543.19
Date: 9/2/2024 11:47:45 PM
Delaware 87ers
II.3
Overall Posts Rated:
308308
Over a real-life decade playing this game I've only ever had more than that amount in my bankroll for maybe 3-4 weeks before I spent it on the $4M arena and trainees. Sigh...

From: Coco

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324543.24 in reply to 324543.22
Date: 9/3/2024 12:18:16 AM
Black Light
NBBA
Overall Posts Rated:
127127
Second Team:
Capitol Hill Arrows
Heh no need to be sorry! You play to achieve your goals! I thought about BB-mailing you but I thought that begging other managers to let me win so I could auto promote was obviously unbecoming and unsportsmanlike, even if the other manager had nothing at stake.

You actually surprised me with the LI... I had planned to receive an outside offense, and went a little overboard with the 1-3-1 defense. But I went overboard because I had used up too much enthusiasm in the run-up to this game.

In fact, losing the SK game was more consequential for my plans than losing to you. For one thing my enthusiasm was still high then, for another it was tactically an easier matchup for me. In fact, my plan had been to get to the game vs. you undefeated, then punt vs you so I could recover tenth, and CT the last game (as I did anyway). The narrow loss to SK tossed a big fat wrench in this plan.

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