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117670.18 in reply to 117670.2
Date: 11/3/2009 8:50:26 PM
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Hi, this table was done when the new potentials were at the beginning, a few months ago I did one that is more consistent and realistic, but never forget that this are just estimations, and after the MVP level is just speculation, we cant know for sure how much an historic or a Leyend can develop.

0 Announcer: < 5k
1 Bench warmer: < 5k
2 Role player: < 9,5k
3 6th man: 11,5-13,5k,
4 Starter: 21-24k,
5 Star: 33-40k
6 AllStar: 43-65k
7 Perennial allstar: 80-100k
8 Superstar: 125-145k
9 MVP: 195-230k
10 Hall of famer: 500k+
11 All time great: 1M+

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117670.19 in reply to 117670.18
Date: 11/4/2009 11:22:06 AM
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I think that the Bench Warmer valuation on this list is too low. I bought an 18 y/o centre with benchwarmer potential and 5,455 salary at the begining of the season. He's popped 4 times at more or the same rate as the other players being trained.

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Date: 11/4/2009 11:33:35 AM
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Don't SFs reach their potential much earler? I can't imagine a SF with salary of 150k.. Any thoughts?

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117670.21 in reply to 117670.20
Date: 11/4/2009 11:39:33 AM
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i believe much other persons not, but i talked from a multi skilled sf not the shooting guard without OD who the system often list as a SF.

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Date: 11/4/2009 12:24:12 PM
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i believe much other persons not, but i talked from a multi skilled sf not the shooting guard without OD who the system often list as a SF.


We have to remember that potential are not based on salary but skills. The fact that salaries are also based on skills, so they can be used as a proxy or roughly estimation of potential caps does not have to make us forget that potential is based on skills.

I end up with a quite similar conclusion about why SFs migt be hitting the cap earlier than others positions.

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117670.23 in reply to 117670.22
Date: 11/4/2009 2:17:03 PM
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i know a potential 8(7 is allstar right) SF who is improving pretty slow, with 40k salary which isn't close to the values in the table.

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117670.24 in reply to 117670.20
Date: 11/4/2009 3:05:34 PM
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Yes, the SF are the first guys to reach the cap. (an Allstar SF probably will get the cap between 38-45k, while a Allstar center can reach 50k without getting capped)

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Date: 11/4/2009 3:17:33 PM
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Yes, the SF are the first guys to reach the cap. (an Allstar SF probably will get the cap between 38-45k, while a Allstar center can reach 50k without getting capped)


What about Torooo's SF who didn't cap out until he closed in on $60,000 in salary? Also, my experience is that Cs cap out higher than 50k, probably closer to 55k at the very least.

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117670.26 in reply to 117670.25
Date: 11/4/2009 3:20:04 PM
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Most of the times is how I tell you, I have seen hundreds of Allstars Sfs capped in the early 40s

I would like to see Toroos SF, it has to be interesting.

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Date: 11/4/2009 4:02:32 PM
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Don't SFs reach their potential much earler? I can't imagine a SF with salary of 150k.. Any thoughts?

Positions do not really affect how players progress towards their potential.

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Date: 11/4/2009 7:39:07 PM
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I would like to see Toroos SF, it has to be interesting.


Here he is: (3187235). I know Torooo has come into this debate before and has mentioned that he wasn't capped until the high 50s. He was pretty sure of it.

The thing I am wondering with SFs is if age/height is a factor - it takes a long time to train a quality SF. I know my 6'10" SF last season took 4 weeks of 1 position pressure training to pop in outside d, this season I trained 4 weeks without a pop so far. Someone suggested that maybe he has hit his cap (he is probably around $40,000+ in salary now)... But I said maybe his height/age had something to do with it. For sure he could not have been at his cap last season at $30,000-35,000 in salary.

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