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Date: 4/11/2016 7:03:04 AM
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This is exactly why I don't expect you to understand. You deem things like religion and language worthless it seems. Things that we care a lot about and are proud of.


As long as religion and language are reasons not to get along with somebody else, I think they are worthless. This is a game and politics and stuff should have no place in it.

I think Iran as a community could still work, even if you played with nations you do not like.

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Well, I can say that I can partially understand your opinion. However, as it was said before, I'm not sure that Iran should be targeted for a change. You have 57 users, you can almost fill the second leagues which is probably minimally acceptable.

But how about those other countries who have trouble filling just one league? or have 5-10 users scattered among second leagues.

The question is would you be open to a common league?(Not NT, or U21 or anything like that)

And perhaps, considering ranking you may win this common league, and get some kind of trophy for being the best team in your country?

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Date: 4/11/2016 8:08:57 AM
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Ok, my previous posts seem to went unnoticed, so I'll try yelling: :)

This post is not a meaningless back and forth debate, it's a practical idea so please read, and possibly expand further:


I propose we merge micronations if following way: Make top divison shared, keep lower divisions national.

Example one:

There are 4 micronations with 50 users let's call them A,B,C,D

They are merged like this:

Div I: Super league, best teams from all 4 countries compete

Div II.1 This is filled with teams from country A

Div II.2 This is filled with teams from country B

Div II.3 This is filled with teams from country C

Div II.4 This is filled with teams from country D

Div IIIs are then filled in similar way, each country gets 4 leagues.

Obvously, it's not simple as this in reality, so consider the next example

Example two:

Micronations A and B are to be merged, A has 150 users, B has 50 users.

Div I is Superleague, best teams compete

Country A gets div II.1, Div II.2, Div II.3

Country B gets Div II.4

Cons: not easy to implement, BBs would need to do a lot to make it work
Pros: awesome idea that fixes A LOT of issues.
Another pro: depending on how much time can BBs devote, it could be further expanded, tremendously

Possible expansion to the idea(or implemented separately)

This idea is aimed to fix economy:

Instead of the current structure with 1 div I, 4 div II, 16 div III, etc. we could do following

Let's say a nation has 200 users(so we can apply the previous examples here)

There is one Div I, two DiV IIs, four DIV IIIs, eight DIV IVs, sixteen Div Vs

This idea aims to balance the micronatiion/macronation by making it similarly difficult to climb from league IV to league I.

For example: Italy keeps the current structure, while the 200 managers nation get the structure I previously described.

Thank you for your time :)




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Date: 4/11/2016 8:32:46 AM
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In Austria we just organized a suvey and about 80% are upset about a merge for Austria.


That is far from true, please don't exaggerate.


Eigenständige Liga und eigenständige NTs 5 31,3%
Zusammenschluss mit anderen kleinen Nationen 2 12,5%
Eigenständig bleiben + BBB neu für mehr Teilnehmer 9 56,3%
Zusammenschluss + BBB neu für mehr Teilnehmer 0 0,0%

"Far away fom true" ???? I don´t want to be called a liar! As you can see above 87,6% don´t want to merge! And I also wrote that they are not against any changes.
So, I cannot see anything false in my statement!


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Lot of drama here.

Fact is, teams in micro-nations can make a lot of money easily and buy the guys they need for any price. To win B3 is not only based on a user's knowledge about the game, money is a big factor, too. Look at me, I'm a Baseball noob, but anytime I could push my team to 800K force because I play in a micro-nation. I think some user are only afraid of losing their easy income and are no longer able to be the hero. I doubt, that some teams in B3 could go that far without playing in a micro-nation.

Again, about *Nationality*. I'm aware that in real life there are some issues between countries, ethnies and religions. But there should be no place for this in here. Absolutely not! There is enough of this s**t in real life. This is a online game, not a battlefield. After micro-nations are merged anybody can still play as a proud representant of his country in a mixed nation league. I agree that the flags should be kept, NT as well. However, in the end there will be a change for the game's sake and some people will be upset anyway. There's no way to satisfy everbody.

Edit Perpete:
No need for the first sentence.


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I %100 agree with you.

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In Austria we just organized a suvey and about 80% are upset about a merge for Austria.


That is far from true, please don't exaggerate.


Eigenständige Liga und eigenständige NTs 5 31,3%
Zusammenschluss mit anderen kleinen Nationen 2 12,5%
Eigenständig bleiben + BBB neu für mehr Teilnehmer 9 56,3%
Zusammenschluss + BBB neu für mehr Teilnehmer 0 0,0%

"Far away fom true" ???? I don´t want to be called a liar! As you can see above 87,6% don´t want to merge! And I also wrote that they are not against any changes.
So, I cannot see anything false in my statement!


Please do the math. I never called you a liar or whatever you accuse me of.

We have 54 users, 16 participated in the poll, which itself is - at least from my point of view asking the wrong questions.

30% of our community do not represent the whole nation, so maybe if we asked everybody the relust would look different. In addition 9 people voted for a reformed BBB, which by itself is not part of the current merger discussion.

Größter Knecht aller Zeiten aka His Excellency aka President for Life aka Field Marshal Al Hadji aka Lord of All the Beasts of the Earth and Fishes of the Seas aka aka Conqueror of the Buzzerbeater Empire in Europe in General and Austria in Particular
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