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Yes, i have looked at some. I do not know them completely as of right now since i only joined it yesterday, but i plan to spend a lot of time on it. Im on it as i type this message.

As someone with no real interest in the NT scene, pretend that I'm a fairly new user that has drafted a 60 TSP 18yo with great potential. What would your advice be?

Well, first I would ask if it was a big man, guard or small forward. That would help haha. But I would encourage you to buy at least a level 4 (superior) trainer. The higher level the trainer the better the training will be. In addition I would advise you to do one position training, and have you play your player in the position of the training you wish to do.Ex: If you were training a small forward and wanted to train the SF in inside defense, I would suggest that you play you SF at the center position that week to maximize training. Extra advice would really depend on what position your trainee is, or what you want your trainee to be.

Last edited by Nick at 1/23/2015 12:21:17 PM

This is the United States coming off of 2 consecutive worlds, and as far as I have seen from my occasional offsite lurking, of all the candidates, Phyr and mars seem to be some of the active ones in the discussions and threads for our U21s

I would definitely like to hear why any somewhat uneducated voter (like me) would want to stray away from the winning path for a candidate with little/lesser offsite experience?

Last edited by Neway at 1/23/2015 2:35:59 PM

I would want to know what the starting stats were first. Maybe he has high primary skills and crap secondary skills. Then after that, I would want you to have the highest trainer level possible, but at least a level 4 trainer. I would want that manager to do 1 position training for stats that need to be worked on. If all of that is too much for the manager to handle, I would recommend that manager to sell the 18 year old on the transfer market, have someone who is active for the U21 team go bid on that player, and the team that sold the player can instead make a huge profit from selling the player and leave the people who are active for the U21 team to make the draftee a U21 player. Both the seller and the U21 teams both win in this situation.

One final statement from me to all of the voters is:

"If you vote for mars2333, the U21 team is guaranteed to win gold at worlds."

I would definitely like to hear why any somewhat uneducated voter (like me) would want to stray away from the winning path for a candidate with little/lesser offsite experience?

You should vote for whoever you think can do the best job. Whether its mars, phyr, me or any of the other candidates. I think you should vote for me because i believe i can and will do the best job. Maybe phyr and mars are more active on the offsite and I'm a newcomer, however i have been active here on buzzerbeater for about 14 seasons in between two teams, with a small break in between due to lack of internet. I have experience, and I believe i am the best choice for the job, but it is a democracy for a reason, so vote for whoever you think would do the best job.

I dont believe that the U21 manager has to come from the offsite. I would want the U21 manager be the best manager possible. There are a ton of real good managers who know how to train and play BB who are not active at the offsite.

At the same time, unless you are training a u21 player, Its really diificult to help out the U21 team unless you are on the offsite. Do you really want a manager that has done no work helping out the u21 program to become u21 manager? USA have built an incredible system on the offsite that has made me a better manager. Any u21 manager would be stupid not to continue using the offsite.

I think you guys missed the point of Spoonerific's question. Sometimes training a U21 is not in the best interest of the manager. I would never tell a 60 TSP HOF 18 year old's manager to train for U21. U21 training is very primary heavy and you would never reach that players full promise if you go the U21 path. You can't advise a manager to do something that is bad for his team.

For a new manager, if I get the impression that they are clueless about training I would encourage them to sell. Getting the 2-3 million in cash for a guy like that would be better for the owner then to keep a trainee that they would never be able to train to their full potential.

If the manager seems like they could train him properly, I would advise him train secondaries. OD/PA for a big and IS/ID for a guard. No one wants to train a 22-23 year old out of position so you have to do it early.

For the record, I advised tough today to train his 50+ HOF 18 year big he bought to 12 OD and 14 PA. Unless you train a SF or get very high level trainer, its very difficult to train secondaries on a U21 player and it can waste a guys potential.

In my opinion, the U21 manager responsibilities basically encapsulate four main areas:

1) Scouting (both players and teams)
2) Tactical knowledge
3) Community
4) Roster knowledge (I see this as taking scouting information and interpreting it)

How would the potential coaches plan to fully utilize and/or more preferably advance these areas. The USA has great scouting, but do any of you have knowledge of programs like Excel to help organize data? How have your personal team's shown your ability to select tactics based on the strengths of your and the other team? The USA has a good community, but how do you plan on making this better, pushing it further, and are you committed to this? How would you approach selecting players that are on the fence for making the roster and/or players that need to be called-up?

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