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20034.35 in reply to 20034.34
Date: 3/22/2008 10:31:46 AM
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Not true, check out my main center, he got exactly 2 prominents and 1 prolific, he averages 8.5, and yet again, this is the personal rating, instead of the teamratings.


you must be doing something wrong. ;-)

my centers are not even clos to 1 proefcient and the receive 8.0 ratings^^

They didn't make the outside focus better, they just changed the fact that guards didn't hit enough shots. You will probably still see the same ratings, but just more shots will go in. Quote out of the news post:

i havnt said anything against it. as long as my guards are contributing to win the game, I dont really care what team ratings I have. BBs change how many outs. shots they hit, then I dont mind if the ratings wont change.

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20034.36 in reply to 20034.34
Date: 3/22/2008 10:41:40 AM
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The ratings are definitely NOT where you should go to find your best examples.

There is a quite a number of guards playing in first division here in Brasil (Amaury Leopardo for the Devils, Nuno Maia for Bauducco) with great ratings, and they still don't earn half of what my french center does (11k A.L. (9,5 average rating) and 19k N.M. (9,5 average rating) vs. 37k (9,0 average rating) my center)

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20034.37 in reply to 20034.36
Date: 3/22/2008 10:55:53 AM
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Why not?

This is just another example of the effectivness of guards.
Look at the way they contribute to the team ratings, you will see that the outside ratings of those teams with the 11k and 19k guards are higher than the inside rating of your team, with the 37k center. (if both would play a normal focus)

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20034.38 in reply to 20034.37
Date: 3/22/2008 10:57:59 AM
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I know!
it was supposed to be an answer to Huzzel
ratings arent good example for him

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20034.39 in reply to 20034.23
Date: 3/22/2008 5:41:28 PM
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it is way easier to train centers, cause u only have to train 4 skills, compared to 6 skills for a guard. Thats one reason why so many decided to train centers.

I have heard this hundreds of times and I still disagree with it.

SG do not need more skills than C.
PF need at least one skill more than C (JS)
PG do indeed need more, I would say at least 5 (although a PG without great shooting can still perform very well).

And do not forget that guards do already train faster (ask a NT coach) and that handling and driving train one-another.

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20034.41 in reply to 20034.39
Date: 3/23/2008 4:34:58 AM
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And do not forget that guards do already train faster (ask a NT coach) and that handling and driving train one-another.


i dont need to. I read the rules , so I konw that one trains the other 80%. 80% is more then a normal secondary training, however it is not that it is one skill. anyways

SG do not need more skills than C.

ask the community what the community thinks a Sg needs. Most will say the need 6 skills. I would agrree. they would as well say a center only needs 4. u might add some secondary skills for centers. true but what about those secondary skills for guards (reb. IS)

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20034.42 in reply to 20034.41
Date: 3/23/2008 5:32:44 AM
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I don't agree with that.
Of course everyone has an own opinion and this is mine;

SG has 3 mainskills (JS, JR and DR) and 3 secondary skills (PA,OD and HD)
PG has 3 mainskills (PA,OD and HD) and 3 secondary skills (JS, JR and DR)
C has 3 mainskills (IS,ID and RB), 1 important sideskill (SB) and 2 secondary skills (JS, DR)

A point guard don't need to be a prominent shooter, he can still perform well without shooting skills, he will boost the defense and the offensive flow.
If you want to use a C as a PF then he would use way more of his JS and DR, since most teams are using C's as a PF they need decent skills there too.

Don't you think it should even out over time, all players have important skills and important other skills.
I didn't mention PA as an important skill of a C, my all star center got a nice passing level and he is in the toplist of assist per game. So yeah, the question is, what's important?

I do think it's too easy to say inside players need only 4 skills, and mainly guard trainers will say that


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20034.43 in reply to 20034.3
Date: 3/23/2008 5:49:23 AM
River Legends
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I have read everything and the point is that inside trainers are not doing things properly, but in my opinion the game is absolutely balanced.

Everybody is trying to have monsters inside, training just ID, IS and RB, wich are the skills that increase the salary a lot, no one trains SB or even JS, they are not making hybrids.

If a shooting guard trainer starts to train ONLY JS,JR an OD he will be in the same problems, but SG trainers are also training Handling, Driving and passing, wich dont increase a lot de salary.
A lot of PG trainers are also training a lot of weeks JS and JR, wich are not habilities that increase a lot the salary for a PG.

Outside trainers are training combined skills, choosing habilities for a PG and a SG and training all of them, Center trainers are just training all the time the same, they see how the salary works, because now it can see easily how it works, but they are still training the same, ID, IS and RB, everything is going to be easier for them if they make Hybrids, if they dont, they wont survive much more with those players, if i train to a SG only JS, JR and OD i will finish like them, outside trainers are training slowly because they are making hybrids combining the 6 outside habilities, at this moment in the game inside players are more advanced in their training that outside players, that are training in a much more balanced way.

The question is...

Why lots of the inside trainers (not everybody) just power up ID, IS and RB despite they know they wont keep the pace???

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20034.44 in reply to 20034.42
Date: 3/23/2008 5:53:07 AM
Le Cotiche
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If you want to use a C as a PF then he would use way more of his JS and DR, since most teams are using C's as a PF they need decent skills there too.


sorry i don't get your point there
if you want to use a C as a PF then those skills are important for PF's, not for centers

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20034.45 in reply to 20034.44
Date: 3/23/2008 6:02:25 AM
River Legends
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A center can be trained in JS, passing an Shot Blocking and he can play as a center.

They are very important secundary skills for a center.

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