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Date: 9/29/2019 1:54:22 PM
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Regarding (2), I don't agree on that. Let's forget the NBA, where it's either run&gun or motion, but looking at Euroleague, every team has it's own style of play. And you definitely know that Fener/Zalgiris are Patient (low number of possessions), Spanish teams are motion/run&gun (high number of possessions, many threes), Maccabi/Khimki/Armani/Efes also has the same style of play every game, in some cases continuing even for years.

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Date: 9/29/2019 1:57:00 PM
Vilkiukai
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After 10 years break from bb, i find it hilarious how teams randomly swap tactics to avoid being hit by a prediction, but all the really important games are still been playing using LI Nothing had changed 10 years lol. This preparation thingy to me is unnecesary, it adds unwanted complexity for better teams and eazies some games for weaker ones. Quessing should not be a part of manager.

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Date: 9/29/2019 2:52:30 PM
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Well I have to disagree on that also :D Guessing IS a pat of the job of the coach in real life. Guessing and taking risks is important part of the game, because coaches always try to be one step ahead of the other coach: which players will be the focus this game, how he will choose to hide his weaknesses and so on and so on. Of course, if you are dominant team, you don't need to guess or take risks, you just need to play on your strengths. Same as in BB. The weaker/similar level teams have to guess and take risks though, to gain some advantage or trick the opponent.

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Date: 9/29/2019 3:02:32 PM
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Preparing for everything means preparing for nothing. Basketball is a very fast game and you need to make decisions on the spot, depending on your opponent actions. Often one team plays well when the opponent plays man to man defense, but totally collapses when the opponent puts zone defense. Why? Because they were guessing the opponent will play man to man, and you cannot prepare well enough for both.
Also often great coaches change the pick&roll defense mid match to stop the opponent. Well the other team can't always adjust to that fast enough, often costing them a game, also because they were preparing to play against different kind of pick&roll defense.

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Date: 9/29/2019 11:28:41 PM
Sandersville Preyers
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Preparing for everything means preparing for nothing. Basketball is a very fast game and you need to make decisions on the spot, depending on your opponent actions. Often one team plays well when the opponent plays man to man defense, but totally collapses when the opponent puts zone defense. Why? Because they were guessing the opponent will play man to man, and you cannot prepare well enough for both.
Also often great coaches change the pick&roll defense mid match to stop the opponent. Well the other team can't always adjust to that fast enough, often costing them a game, also because they were preparing to play against different kind of pick&roll defense.



Much of what is mentioned here requires in-game adjustments. GDP is no help there and introduces nothing new except extra credit for guessing.

Last edited by LDR at 9/29/2019 11:29:07 PM

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282132.46 in reply to 282132.40
Date: 9/30/2019 4:51:37 AM
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RL coaches don't guess. They prepare their team for everything

Not sure which teams you have coached or played before in real life, but as a former professional coach, this kinda surprises me.

Although it is in a way correct in lower levels, where you don't know anything about your opponents or their coaches and they play without any tactics or sense, but as you get to a higher level, there are always constants - play style, coaching style etc...

I've never coached at international level or a pro team before (yes I was a professional coach, but my players weren't pro players, I was just on payroll), but such things can actually be seen even up to NBA level - like how Spurs players guarded Harden in one game to minimize his flopping and force him to shoot mid range shots, or like how they defended Jokic in the playoffs last season (you would notice them trying to cut off his passing lanes in some games), or like how Celtics had Horford defend Giannis inside, or how the Warriors are forced to rely on individual brilliance deeper down the playoffs than run their usual motion offense because it gets foiled more often. And it's not only in basketball. Other pro sport coaches watch a lot of tapes of their opponents, and such activities are also well documented. These are what GDP reflects, although it might not exactly mimic real life, but I feel it's decent enough.

Yes, as coaches, the best case scenario is that our players Excel in everything and can face anything that's thrown into their faces. But we also take one match at a time, and tailor whatever we have to stop our opponents.

Last edited by BuzzRBeater at 9/30/2019 4:52:06 AM

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