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As i sad i agree with that but with some additions

>Tanking is a form of basketball team management, though.

Not when forfeits, television agreements and gate revenues are involved.

As a game strategy yes, but again, it goes against the concept of fair play.

Yes, tanking in real life does happen sometimes. An example from a different sport: Last year Bruce Arena fielded a joke lineup for the LA Galaxy in a late stage of the US Open Cup. He didn't make a concerted effort to win, because he wanted his best players to be available for the next league game.

That, I and I don't think any fans of the Galaxy would have a major problem with. Some were disappointed, but, at the same time, the Galaxy carries a roster of dozens of players who are reserves and that is the scenario where they get their PT (similar to the scrimmages in this game).

So, even though they didn't make an effort to win the game, they were still developing the team beyond their first team. They also were fielding a full team in both league and reserve (Cup) games.

So, from that point of view, no, tanking is not a real-life strategy. The tanking we are talking about here I am pretty sure is not what some might reasonably consider prioritization of development and resources.

Its possible to win Games even when you tank a season ..

Last week I bought a player with whom my team is over the salary cap (I'm paying 294k salary - no other Team here has less than 595k salary) and yet I won 5 Games (the first 3 I only had to pay the Salary Floor and in the fifth my SF was Injured after 3 minutes)

Im 6th with only one point difference from being fifth - why should my Fans suddenly stop coming even tough I win games
Last season when I had a normal Team I only won one more Game ... and we had one Team tanking (and two started tanking after the ASG)


IMO your attendence should drop if you field less than 5 Players at game start and less impact of the last game for attendence would be good too (it should depend more on this years record)

to me that's not really tanking. I call it "Minor Tanking" which I bet 60% of teams do in BB. Well, to me there are types of tanking lie this:

.Hardcore Tanking: Tank to relegate, get a great draft pick, gain serious cash.

.Tank to Draft: You tank and tank, get a good drraft pick, but end up in 7th. No problem, just get 2 100+k monsters to stay in the league.

.Minor Tanking: Tank a few games you want in a given season, but stay high enough to get to the playoffs or get to 5th



Now, I plan to do Tanking #3 when I promote, to gain up the cash, but stay above water in standings enough to get 5th and hopefully a good draft pick. So what your doing doesn't bother me, what does is that team intentially put less than 5 players or fill their roster with crap players to stay above floor. And they forfeit and get all the cash they want to win in the next seasons.......

I planned to tank to draft 1st - 300k in a First League is nothing ;) as I said, any other team here has more than double my teams salary (and until one Week ago I wasn't above the floor)

man, 300k is a lot of cash for D4/5ers

I don't even call it minor tanking. I call it "better than the other teams in your league," management.

Why ?

Because of this : (46306164), (46306223), (46306244).
Why would you have to pay a ticket for these games ? Some of your fans follow you on away games, you know that ?

It's not only your team, other teams have this kind of games.
Yesterday : (46306254) and (46306255)
Tuesday : (46306247) and (46306244)
Your league receives TV money, it's a joke of a league. Who wants to follow this ? Networks should boycott you ! :D

It's not only in top leagues, it's going down the leagues. Sometimes half the games on a matchday are filler games.

It's not against you or against tankers, the strategy is sound, we understand why teams tank. It's about the game.
The teams behind you will soon realize they should semi-tank like you. They only need 5 starters to win games once in a while. Matchday results should soon be awesome. Only a handful of teams aiming for the title should keep full rosters.
The owners have complained sometimes that BBers were not always playing logically. Well if we played logically, we would already be there, with stupid looking leagues.

So it's about the game, the best strategy now is (semi-)tanking and it's not only in top leagues. It's due to some of the game rules and how the game works.

The core of BB is supposed to be the GE and the matchdays. The GE is BB's gem. The owners can be proud of it. It's perfectible and it's annoying that it has not been updated for ages but it is still very good.

So it's about the game. How would I introduce BB to friends ? How would you ? What is the game about ? Basketball ? Finances ? Doing nothing for months then buying a team by the 3rd quarter of 2013 ?

This is up to the devs to think about it and decide what kind of game they want.

right on. One friend of mine is tanking before the BBs "do something about it" he won his game with practically 3 people only. Check out III.6 USA, look the 3rd placed team in the Big 8 (Eclypze) and you'll see it.

Last edited by tough at 7/1/2012 5:39:16 AM

They should also boycott Real Madrid and Barcelona, they win League Games with more than 5 Goals difference form time to time! ;-)

There are games where its useless to compete, especially if you have 2 League and one Cup game - you would need a roster with more than more than 900k Salary to be able to compete in all three if you always had to play against Full team opponents - needless to say, not many teams can afford that

On average our the teams in my League earn -4k per week .. while I make +400k (meaning some Teams are losing lots of money every week)

What other choice is there than to (semi-)tank? If I had enough money I would rather play to compete than to earn lots of money so that I can compete again

Austria is rather small, which means our 2nd Leagues are quite weak (-> Less Money) which means when a Team promotes it should better have lots of reserves - you can't keep a strong team long in the 2nd League which is even partially able to compete in the Bundesliga (I had to exchange all of my Players when I promoted - and I only lost two games in the season I promotedm one in the regular season by -1 and the 2nd Playoff Final Game)


Besides - those 3 Games of my Team were committed for Training, try winning when running Cs at PG/SG - as long as the training system is not changed there is no reason to even try to win this if you have to forfeit one or two positions, I did the same in the last two seasons while I had a competitive team (I still don't know why I even won one game - let alone 5 .. I just wanted a nice new homegrown Draft to train for our NT :-/)