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117670.46 in reply to 117670.45
Date: 11/6/2009 3:10:18 PM
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Are you sure that it wasnt an age problem?

Also take care that a player can have a wage of 45k in the middle of the season (is calculated when the season starts) but his true virtual wage can be more than 50k.

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117670.47 in reply to 117670.46
Date: 11/6/2009 3:25:46 PM
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with qualtinger is was close after his 21 birthday, three longer ups then normal* before the third one with massiv sub before. Schwartz startet slowing down short after him, so that i sold him for the U21 team. Rocha who is competing for a place in the portugese Nationalteams, also trouble to improve for more then a season and if i look on his competition in the portugese NT i would say it isn't just him.

* maybe four if you consider the one before his birthday to this who takes a bit longer then normal, the birthday salary was 43k with start of his 22 he was on 47,5k



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117670.48 in reply to 117670.44
Date: 11/6/2009 6:01:46 PM
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When I talk about the SF "problem" (they get capped with minor salaries than the rest of positions is a simple observation, I dont know why it happens, simply.. it happens). I suggest everybody here to search some info about SF and compare their limits with the PGs.

Observationally, you identify "capped" as a "slowdown in training speeds". There are various reasons why training may slow down. I have no evidence that SFs cap any differently from other positions -- using your logic, my star SF should have capped "way below" the normal 35k cap for stars, He has an actual salary of above 20k and is definitely not capped.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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117670.49 in reply to 117670.48
Date: 11/6/2009 7:33:07 PM
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Ok, I suppose that you are going to keep training him, if he arrives to 30k+ I will definitevely be wrong. I made my observations being the NT of Spain, and maybe all those SF had too much JS (maybe SF with a skill combination of high JS and some reb reach the cap before than others?).

I would like to control your player, just to confirm what I believe. Ill send you a BBmail.

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117670.50 in reply to 117670.49
Date: 11/6/2009 7:39:58 PM
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Unfortunately, given that the wage formula will change at the start of Season 11, I won't be able to track this.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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117670.51 in reply to 117670.48
Date: 11/6/2009 9:52:19 PM
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theres no way of telling whether you are cap or not because we dont know how much age and height affect training speed by.

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Date: 11/6/2009 10:04:02 PM
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theres no way of telling whether you are cap or not because we dont know how much age and height affect training speed by.

Training will slow down at the cap, regardless of what the age/height is. Age and height will act in exactly the same way after potential capping has occurred.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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117670.53 in reply to 117670.52
Date: 11/6/2009 10:10:07 PM
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so youre saying that as you get into higher level, the training slow automatically. example: training from strong -> prolific is slower than mediorce -> average?

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117670.54 in reply to 117670.53
Date: 11/6/2009 10:16:27 PM
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so youre saying that as you get into higher level, the training slow automatically. example: training from strong -> prolific is slower than mediorce -> average?

No, I am not saying anything even remotely close to this.

Training is supposed to slow down relatively rapidly when the potential is reached, as opposed to the age effect, which is gradual over time, and height effect which is constant. Therefore, it's fairly easy to distinguish when a player hits t he cap.

"I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve."
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117670.55 in reply to 117670.54
Date: 11/7/2009 3:49:29 AM
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Hello everybody

Very interesting discussion! I have two players with the potential of a starter, one is a PG the other a SG. WIth what wage do they get capped? on the transfer list i found starters with a wage of 28'000, but the most are around 23k. The last starter I trained capped around the 20k's.

So i believe, there is no way that i can keep on training starters after this season.

Do you guys know a link where i can find information about the change for season 11 (wage formula) I hope, it will change the way, that i can keep on training my starters for one more season.

Best regards,

sgt_koriander

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117670.56 in reply to 117670.55
Date: 11/7/2009 8:42:41 AM
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Hi,

I have a SG capped at around 43k of salary, which is consistent with the data Leyendinha had provided.

My guess about potential caps its not about the salary but about a combination of primary skill level for every position.

My SG is lvl1 in rebounding, and thats is the reason, or my guess, why he is in the bottom of the interval. But most important he get capped, when the summ of his 3 primary skills for SG reach 40. I assume that primary skills for SG are JS, JR and OD.

Maybe the SF get capped at low salaries because the formula takes into account more primary skills than for a SG or a C.

Also in the case of PG, many of them or at least many that i have seen(before last changes), haven't a really high level of passing, making it possible to reach their cap with a higher salary than SF. Assuming that passing is a primary skill for PG.

Best regards,

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