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From: JayP

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Date: 4/18/2008 7:08:59 PM
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I think as a primary training they train at the same speed as the other skills. It's just that I don't think any of the other trainings train defense as a secondary (at least with pressure, I don't know much about inside training). The other skills seem to train faster because they are getting trained a little bit even when you are focusing on other areas.

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Date: 4/18/2008 11:22:32 PM
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I'm almost 100% sure Inside Defense trains just as fast as Inside Shot.

From: vinnie2k

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Date: 4/19/2008 6:44:53 AM
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This training of pressure is not working, I think.
A week now and two weeks then but no pops evrer. Have someone got a pop in pressure?

Yup. More than one, in fact.

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Date: 4/19/2008 8:31:01 AM
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I think I'll update this soon, but I'm beginning to believe that Pressure and Inside Defense train slower than other skills.


My own non-quantified opinion is that Pressure (training only PG) doesn't train any slower. And I've taken a player to prolific outside D.

Another gut feeling that I have is that Pressure may be extra sensitive to height. It seems like my 5'11" guard has fared much, much better than my 6'7" one.

From: Wixix
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Date: 4/22/2008 4:09:41 AM
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I will release first results of my 7 weeks training outside shooting with level 9 trainer:

Training type: Outside shooting
Position: PG/SG
Age: 18y - 20y
Height: 6'1" - 6'3"

JR jumps: 2-4 weeks
JS jumps: 4-5 weeks
(no other jumps for 7 weeks)

I hope this will help, I will continue with this training as long as I can have 3 games per week.

From: Acajou

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Date: 4/23/2008 10:24:19 AM
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Coach Level 8-9

2 weeks pressure PG, another 2 weeks pressure PG/SG:
18 - 1,96m ~ 4 Weeks OD from 7 to 9
19 - 1,75m ~ 4 Weeks OD from 8 to 10
20 - 1,90m ~ 4 Weeks OD from 7 to 8, ID from 2 to 3, HN from 5 to 6

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Date: 4/23/2008 6:43:38 PM
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Forwards:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains IS @ 7-8 weeks

Wingmen:
Trains JS @ 2-3 weeks
Trains JR @ 7-8 weeks
Trains DV @ 7-8 weeks
Trains HN @ 7-8 weeks


Is this right? Seems unfair that training wingmen would train DV & HN and not if you train forwards.

Steve
Bruins

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Date: 4/25/2008 6:09:39 AM
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One on One
Guards:
Trains DV @ 2-3 weeks
Trains HN @ 3-4 weeks
Trains IS @ 7-8 weeks
Trains JS @ 7-8 weeks


I guess JS is faster than 7-8 weeks, maybe 4-5 weeks, anyone noticed this too?

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Date: 4/25/2008 10:04:14 AM
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Dv 2 weeks
Hn 2-3 weeks
JS 2-3 weeks

I trained 1 on 1 a lot of time and it was something like that.

IS was never trained for guards, that just happen when you train PF 1 on 1.

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From my experience, One on One for guards trains 3 Skills with same speed, DV, HN and JS... My player Omar Krasnič popped once in all these 3 Skills, then I trained something else, Pressure, I think, and then after two weeks of One on One, he popped in all 3 Skills again... And he's 23...

I think in this one and half year I trained JS once or twice, I'm constantly rotating between One on One, Outside Shooting, Pressure and Passing, and I have 3 players with prominent JS (all start from respectable or lower), I have one strong (rookie, started from average) and one mediocre JS (bought him this season, started from awful... So, if you don't train JS at all, and constantly train One on One, you'll get JS pop every 3-4 wees... I think I trained Pressure the most, and I have only one player prominent in OD... Plus 2 proficient, 1 respectable and 1 average (he was pitiful when I started)...

And I think you really train faster when rotating training, for example, my player Miško Tuponja had 19 pops in 22 weeks, so almost 1 pop per week... So I would never stick to one training more then 2 weeks in a row...

Since I have time, and you need informations, I'll post here my training (trainer 8-10, always PG/SG training) and Miško's pops:

Week 1, Outside Shooting, no pops
Week 2, Outside Shooting, JR - inept
Week 3, Passing (entire team), no pops
Week 4, Outside Shooting, no pops
Week 5, Jump Shot, JS - respectable
Week 6, Pressure, OD - awful
Week 7, Outside Shooting, no pops
Week 8, Passing, PS - strong
Week 9, Pressure, DV - respectable
Week 10, Pressure, OD - inept
Week 11, One on One, no pops
Week 12, One on One, JS - strong, HN - strong, DV - strong
Week 13, Pressure, OD - mediocre, ID - mediocre
Week 14, Outside Shooting, JR - mediocre
Week 15, One on One, no pops
Week 16, One on One, JS - proficient, DV - proficient
Week 17, Outside Shooting, no pops
Week 18, Passing, HN - proficient
Week 19, One on One, no pops
Week 20, Pressure, OD - average
Week 21, One on One, JS - prominent, DV - prominent
Week 22, Passing, HN - prominent

Well, as you can see, rotating is the key :) And to mention, he's 20...

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