BuzzerBeater Forums

I think the rest of us are hoping you lock in at 22-0 and the rest of us can squabble over the scraps! Excited to see what Fat does to my team when his game shape gets up. I was shocked when I got him at the price, and hadn't really planned for it to happen. Wont be any more adds from me.

I would be closer to the playoff line in the Big 8 had I not, intentionally, dropped some winnable games to prioritize the Cup so I got the guaranteed 3rd training game All-Star week.

Yeah the cup interference is real (for me it went the other way: I was kicked out by a team doped up on high salaries that went bankrupt shortly after they beat me.).

You do have a favorable home/away split in the rest of the season, and it’s not out of the cards that you can make it back in. Though I’m actually not sure which is better between a gimme relegation series and a first round exit in PO. I suspect the former is financially better.

Last edited by Coco at 7/29/2024 9:18:14 AM

My priority is getting 3 training games per week for now.

You were Lake Merritt, right? I don't think we played... i did have a couple matches vs King Drive during his rebuild and knocked out an NBBA team from the cup as a IV team but that's about it.

I studied the top teams' roster construction and forum posts pretty intently early on. That was a long time ago but I'm sure you helped my learning process!

Don't think I've ever seen a team with so many guys at or around the same age. How many of those 23 year olds are you actively training? Any of them on track for USA NT?

Last edited by Dunkface at 7/30/2024 7:21:22 PM

Well, I bought Taylor and Hayes off the market while they were mostly trained. When I started this rebuild I wanted to create a team of trainees with SF builds so I bought a bunch of 6'5" to 6'8" 18 yo to train. And since I prefer to use only USA players, I tend to hold them forever.

Shelton and Edwards were my main trainees though their U21 season, although only Edwards made the U21 team. Shelton is my #1 so he probably has the best NT chance given he's an MVP potential.

Edwards is pretty much done with his outside training so he's just sitting there waiting for the rest. Connor is the #3 priority behind Shelton and Edward. Nava and Hayes fall behind them. Guillen and Griffith are cup/scrimmage players at this point and aren't being trained.

The reality of the current training system is that I'll be lucky to get Shelton, Edwards, and maybe 2 of Connor, Nava or Hayes to a finished point. Shelton should get to over 140 TSP when he's done. Edwards and Connor will probably be around 130. Nava and Hayes will likely end up in the 120s.

I will say though, that the team accountants are appalled at the amount of money being spent on transfers and salaries for the training staff these past 6 seasons.

Last edited by lvess at 7/31/2024 8:48:18 AM

I did something similar with my Utopia team but only have 3 21yo on U21NTs which has been fun but painstaking. I'm glad BB put the second team in as an option so I can have a functional one and an experimental one. The level 6-7 trainers and the upgraded areans...not a cheap cost. I think our accountants can share a beer together!

After my last NBBA relegation in S.58 I did a full tear down and invested in the $4M arena and Merch store to maximize my income and be able to, eventually, support higher salaries at that level. Between that and buying trainees I must have spent $7M+ between S.59 and S.60.

After that, and having to buy trainees due to a crappy draft class, I had to settle for a L6 trainer and youth trainer. I upgraded to a L7 trainer when I dropped the youth one. That said, the prices for L7 trainers are insane. I refuse to pay those $1.5M+ bids for the more reasonable salaried ones as the ROI will never break even. I just replaced my trainer a few weeks ago and the one I dropped was over $90k per week. That just insane. Necessary, but insane.

I do this too. At this point I actually train on the USA team only for nostalgia. In the current market, training a serious prospect is a financial loser (especially if they have to buy the player, but even if you draft them you have the scouting cost that's significant). Between the cost of the coaching, the arena expansions, and the hit in performance when you have to play a young guy 48 minutes in an important league game, you could only make your money back if resale prices were much higher. When you add in that you can buy transformative older players for pennies, training ends up being an impediment to winning, which is unfortunate.

When I rejoined the game, I decided that my USA team was going to go after every win and cut every corner, while my Utopia team was going to take it slow, smell the training flowers, and explore the different builds that the training system affords. If I wanted to take this to the extreme, I'd probably start training only Stamina on the USA team, but I can't let go of the Friday morning rush when I see the little up arrows

Last edited by Coco at 8/1/2024 10:35:17 AM

As a counterpoint to my earlier somewhat depressing post, here's an uplifting one. I purchased Quanfu when I rejoined and put 2 life-years of training into him. He was never going to be the elite of the elite, but I built him up enough that he's been a dominant force at PF for this level of league. And the fact that I trained him helped me get him to a point of salary vs. performance which is advantageous for us.