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From: Deano25

To: MrJ
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324689.577 in reply to 324689.576
Date: 3/19/2025 10:08:15 AM
Heywood Big Dogs
II.2
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Second Team:
Heywood Lions
I replied in the Bbmail, but I’m in Victoria, which is GMT +10 as far as I know.

From: Chucarro

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324689.578 in reply to 324689.573
Date: 3/19/2025 10:14:33 AM
Club Trouville
II.1
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1919
Maybe I wasn’t clear enough in my point: when I said a random time, I meant that all the matches should be at the same time, but that time should be chosen by you or anyone else, it doesn’t matter. Once that time is chosen, all the matches should be at that time

From: Wagner

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Date: 3/19/2025 10:35:06 AM
Wagner College
II.2
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215215
I replied in the Bbmail, but I’m in Victoria, which is GMT +10 as far as I know.


What might cause even more confusion here is difference in our locations on the other sides of the world (and winter here being summer there if my memory serves me, while some might argue you have only summer;). I guess due to that Daylight Savings Time is applied in Australia during winter months, while in Finland it is applied in summer between 30 March to 26 October.

So currently many online services show that Victoria would be GMT+11 currently (due to DST currently applied? Australian Eastern Daylight Time?), but when Australian Eastern Standard Time is once again applied (for Eastern Australia AEST?) from beginning of 6 April, it'll go back in time 1 hour and then this normal time of GMT+10 should apply to Eastern Australia.

So as I was asking to give GMT time with regards to normal time (not DST), then I think we could conclude, that Deano25 is at GMT+10 and in relation to reference (EET), his teams' reference number is +8(?).

I'm sure there could be some inaccuracies with my thinking, but this is as close as I was able to figure it out (please correct if I'm wrong), and so I already updated these aforementioned numbers to a list created earlier today on this thread.

Only waiting for a response from BigChill, to complete the list of time zones.
EDIT:
If you guys happen to know he's in BB discord, would you mind sending him a message in there that he has BBMail? He has logged in couple of days ago last time.

Last edited by Wagner at 3/19/2025 10:40:09 AM

From: Wagner

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324689.580 in reply to 324689.578
Date: 3/19/2025 10:37:51 AM
Wagner College
II.2
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215215
Maybe I wasn’t clear enough in my point: when I said a random time, I meant that all the matches should be at the same time, but that time should be chosen by you or anyone else, it doesn’t matter. Once that time is chosen, all the matches should be at that time

Right. Well, in that case I misinterpreted the word random, as I had different meaning for it in mind in this usage.
But that exactly is the plan and goal here: HGL matches start (and approximately also finish) at the same time, no matter what part of world you reside. I will provide that answer soon, after getting a reply to BBMail from BigChill.

Last edited by Wagner at 3/19/2025 10:41:42 AM

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.581 in reply to 324689.574
Date: 3/19/2025 9:05:09 PM
Wagner College
II.2
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215215
My fellow managers,
as you have noticed, we have been discussing about using fixed/designated time for HGL matches, so that they start at exactly the same time no matter which part of world you are. Now that I received an answer from BigChill, I have all time zone information available, and will update it to a table done and posted today on this thread. Based on all information, I have reached the best compromise I was able to come up with, keeping in mind that it might be preferable to choose either an exact hour, or half an hour as a starting time (and not, say, 5 to 3PM for instance). Therefore, as we are literally 17-18 hours away from each other at most, all times are going to be compromise of some sort.

The official designated match time for all HGL matches is 14.30, on other words 2.30PM EET (Eastern European Time) normal time, not Daylight Savings Time, DST. EET time zone is GMT+2. This EET will function for us as a reference time (but further explanation will follow later, if you still didn't read Homegrown teams II-thread posts on Wednesday).

I will also copy this information to official HGL threads, by adding time zone and match times information to the participating teams list, likely before the team name as in aforementioned team name/time zone table published today, here: (324689.559).
If you see an error in your time information, please send me a BBMail (preferable) or message on forum.

In the team name list after time zone/reference marking I will include the time, that team uses when arranging/organizing matches, which they are responsible of organizing. All regular season matches are organized at this same time, so in that sense it's logical and easy.

For example: GMT-5/-7=07.30AM.
This means: team is located in time zone GTM-5. The difference to reference time (GMT+2, Eastern European Time is used as a reference) is -7 hours, so reference number of team is -7. So therefore all matches organized by this team in question will start 2.30PM minus 7 hours=07.30AM local time.

For teams west of Eastern European Time zone, GMT and reference number will of course be plus, so it will be added to 2.30PM starting time to conclude what is the actual local starting time for the match.

As you may remember from earlier post, we have agreed to use a system with 8 volunteered teams who do most of the organizing, but each and every one of us, also those rest 8 non-volunteered teams are responsible for sending some challenges. As also mentioned earlier, which team is responsible for challenging has already been marked to the schedule by bolding the team name.

I might update the information here or to the official HGL thread tomorrow (and just update the name table on this thread, so that you can check it out for possible errors.
When checking out your information (whether GMT information is correct in table, and whether your match start time is correct), please remember: we use standard time, not DST.

For example in Finland "normal time", a.k.a. winter time, is EET (Eastern European Time) GMT+2, but Daylight Savings Time (DST, "summer time") is GMT+3. And for instance difference between USA East coast and Finland is normally 7 hours (GMT-5 and GMT+2), but for a short period we're only 6 hours apart, as US already started using DST on March 9th and we'll do that later this month. But again, for the purposes of this HGL we will use Standard Time, not DST.

I'm currently very tired, so I probably make this sound a lot more complicated than it is. Yes, differences between countries on applying DST (or to which way it is added, as we today noticed a dramatic difference between Europe and Australia) could create some situations in where matches are not ending exactly at the same time, but this is best I can come up with this time on my hands. More tomorrow, but I'll update the table before heading to bed. Here's the link to it: (324689.559).

From: MrJ
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324689.582 in reply to 324689.581
Date: 3/20/2025 5:45:39 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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347347
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

I have been thinking about the Salary averages I will do when the season resets. I will still do the Top 8 salaries of teams...

...I think it might be fun to seed all teams on their salaries. What do we think?

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: T-Lit

To: MrJ
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324689.583 in reply to 324689.582
Date: 3/20/2025 7:36:32 AM
Buckner Bandits
IV.20
Overall Posts Rated:
7676
Sounds like a lot of work, but if you are volunteering, go for it. :-)

From: T-Lit
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324689.584 in reply to 324689.583
Date: 3/20/2025 7:40:44 AM
Buckner Bandits
IV.20
Overall Posts Rated:
7676
Now that we have a set time, 2:30 Pm EET, are we good to start scheduling our games?

I will use your time of 7:30 Eastern Time (ET) for when I schedule my games.

Thanks for making a set time, best of luck yall! :-)

From: MrJ

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324689.585 in reply to 324689.584
Date: 3/20/2025 8:21:57 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
347347
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
Now that we have a set time, 2:30 Pm EET, are we good to start scheduling our games?

I will use your time of 7:30 Eastern Time (ET) for when I schedule my games.

Thanks for making a set time, best of luck yall! :-)



Not sure? Wagner? I think we are close...

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: T-Lit

To: MrJ
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324689.586 in reply to 324689.585
Date: 3/20/2025 8:28:48 AM
Buckner Bandits
IV.20
Overall Posts Rated:
7676
I think our game is going to be much closer matchup than you think, your team is very good and I am hopeful that you get some great draftees!

Will be a FUN matchup non the less! :-)

From: MrJ

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Date: 3/20/2025 8:37:02 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
347347
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
I think our game is going to be much closer matchup than you think, your team is very good and I am hopeful that you get some great draftees!

Will be a FUN matchup non the less! :-)


I think you give my too much credit, T-Lit. The game we played in the PL this season doesn't help as I had some bigs which I have now sold. (hint hint = weakness is bigs!) lol. (or is this just reverse psychology?)

I'm looking forward to our game. If I can secure one of the 5/5 bigs in the draft, hopefully I can build a team around them. My SF trainee is coming along nicely and although his TSP is already 100, I want to get some great big training into him before he caps.

I think the coolest part about being HG is the constant training and the long-term benefits of that.

I think our match could be close. Well, at least I hope so. :-)

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
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