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175811.64 in reply to 175811.63
Date: 3/6/2011 4:25:45 AM
Koopasaurus
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wow thats not a bad trainee for only $135k. good height, good range of medium level skills, pity he is not from Hong Kong!

It is true that a SF don't need high potential, world class SF these days max out around 90k salary. But you will need at least $1.2mil if u wanted an 18 yr old with the right skill set to begin training with.
but for this part, u underestimate the cost. the salary rise of a trainer is large. when u first buy him, he cost u 20k per week. but 7 seasons later, he may cost u 60k-70k per week and u may better buy another trainer...

awesome so you agree that training a SF will cost a lot more then the 3.5mil I estimated =P

Yes you can also be training another 2 SF in the mean time as well and sell them for a nice profit.. but I'll be training 3 guards or centers to sell as well.

There are many paths to a true great SF, just like there are many ways to play this game =P All paths taken are correct as long as you enjoy the game ^^

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175811.65 in reply to 175811.64
Date: 3/6/2011 6:56:11 AM
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It is true that a SF don't need high potential, world class SF these days max out around 90k salary.


I don't agree with this. The cap isn't about salary, is about skills. If you're talking about centers or guards, it's pretty much the salary, but with SF's this is not the case, I believe you need high potential to train top SF's.

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175811.66 in reply to 175811.1
Date: 3/6/2011 7:06:27 AM
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i have to admit i didnt read all answers.

for me the biggest advantage of having a good small forward is the tactical variety compared to your weekly financial outcome

a) offensively: the opponent isnt able to put a pure pf/c on the sf-spot because your sf could shoot 3 after 3 and isnt able to put an pg/sg on the sf because your sf could outscore him by posting up.

b) defensively: your 'sf' could quite simply play ot of position at the sg or pf spot creating a hard missmatch for your opponent but is still able to defend the opponents pf or sg.

all based on the case that your tactical choices/guesses are right.

for reference look at Distler (4599748)

playing at pf-spot in a motion offense: e.g. (29598028) and (29598011)
playing sg in a r&g offense: e.g. yesterdays game: (29598092)
or just play the sf in any given offense. (even if the game was lost: maybe take a look at the sf-matchuprating and boxscore in this game when he played vs a 50k sg most of the time: (29598070)

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175811.67 in reply to 175811.65
Date: 3/6/2011 5:44:43 PM
Koopasaurus
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By high potential, what kind of potential are you referring to.. MVP / hall of fame / all time great?
You probably don't need higher then a superstar since top SF these days max around 90k salary. So maybe an allstar or perennial allstar could be enough? All star could be pushing it a little.

Examples are:
Rickleff Distler (4599748) 96k
Cane Vidojević (8181103) 84k
Wazza Kennerley (6863683) 83k


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175811.68 in reply to 175811.67
Date: 3/6/2011 6:34:43 PM
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Around MVP, just because the cap isn't based on salary, but skills. Most of the times salary = skills but not on SF's ;)

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175811.69 in reply to 175811.67
Date: 3/6/2011 7:26:22 PM
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well there is no perfect player. so there is no perfect sf.

distler capped around 2 seasons ago. still he is one of the better sf's in the game, but there are better ones. like on any given position from pg-c: the more potential the better.

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175811.71 in reply to 175811.70
Date: 3/7/2011 10:49:45 AM
Bisamberg Torpedos
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I would rather say that Tobias Kienbink (4599312) is the best SF in the game right now ;)

In my opinion a good starting Skillset is more important for an SF trainee than his potential, since they should have all skills at a decent level

Last edited by LA-noxx at 3/7/2011 11:37:20 AM

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175811.72 in reply to 175811.71
Date: 3/7/2011 11:25:46 AM
Aussie Pride
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That link doesn't work :)

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175811.73 in reply to 175811.72
Date: 3/7/2011 11:41:04 AM
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Fixed it ;)

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175811.74 in reply to 175811.11
Date: 3/7/2011 3:52:24 PM
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How important is ID for small forwards, considering that IS has no bearing on the salary? Unless you play 2-3 zone, I don't understand why you couldn't play SGs at SF spot successfully.
Another question: if you play MM, does anyone help on D? Is ID = help defence as well?

one more: What offence allows SFs to post up?

Thanks!

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