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193604.65 in reply to 193604.62
Date: 8/12/2011 6:52:55 AM
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Another one missing the point. It was about competeing in the B3, not anything else. Crazyeye answered this for me days ago, but thanks for your input.

Because I hear only complaints and in this way I see discussion will never end, so I have solution for You. Before first financial update in season (when TV contract is calculated) You should buy 10 players with salary >300-400k (they aren't expensive, especially after play-offs, because then they are useless). If possible You should ask all other managers in You league to do the same.
Then TV contract in Your league will be higher, because it depends on how strong players play in league.
After new TV contract is calculated You could sell (or fire) all mutants.

And still I don't agree that teams in small countries are in worse possition to fight in B3. As far as I remeber in previous B3 tournament two the strongest (? or the most expensive - it should be better term) teams came from small countries (Venomous Scorpions - Iran, Ball Bouncers - Cymru). Accident? How is it possible if we agree with Your arguments?

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193604.66 in reply to 193604.65
Date: 8/12/2011 9:24:03 AM
The Black Roses
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Well, what exactly was your point?

It does not matter what your income is. What matters is the profit you make. because if you make 1 million in income but pay 1,1 in expenses that won't be good right?

From what I see your pure profit per week does not differ much from mine. You make around 100k per week. Well, guess what, so do I. And so does the number 1 team in Bulgaria. So how does that put you in a disadvantage? You still get the same money. Now if you increase your salaries, you will increase income from merch.

Plus B3 is simply bragging rights. And no one is forcing you to be competitive there. If on the other hand you were suggesting that some leagues had advantages over others, well, that would have been a different story.

In real life it is more or less the same. try winning the Euroleague with the champion of Montenegro for example.

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193604.67 in reply to 193604.66
Date: 8/12/2011 5:16:28 PM
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woooo...quite interesting discussion here is the details from my league/country INDIA


Player Salaries:$ 310 332 Attendance: $ 371 720
Staff Salaries: $ 66 536 Merchandise: $ 68 015
Scouting: $ 11 333 TV Contract: $ 158 237
Total: $ 388 201 Total: $ 597 972

League Average Net Income: $ 209 771

Hope this will help in your discussion :)

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193604.68 in reply to 193604.67
Date: 8/12/2011 5:36:29 PM
Bisamberg Torpedos
Bundesliga
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Second Team:
Bisamberg Torpedos II
Austria:

League Avarage:

Ligadurchschnitt der letzten Woche Ausgaben Einnahmen
Spielergehälter: $ 661 716 Zuschauer: $ 501 668
Personalgehälter: $ 85 251 Werbung: $ 95 183
Scouting: $ 5 000 TV-Vertrag: $ 209 154
Total: $ 751 967 Total: $ 806 005
durchschn. Ligaeinkommen: $ 54 038

Austria is a small Country with fewer than 100 Users at the moment ...

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193604.69 in reply to 193604.68
Date: 8/12/2011 5:43:50 PM
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Still you got nice average income comparing to us as we have only 56 active managers :(

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193604.70 in reply to 193604.69
Date: 8/12/2011 6:06:53 PM
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Still you got nice average income comparing to us as we have only 56 active managers :(

Nice?
League Average Net Income:
India - $ 209 771
Austria - $ 54 038

I think incomes in Your country are nice comparing to other top leagues.

And I made quick review of arenas in top league in India and only 6 of 16 are decent for 1st division. If all arenas in Your leage are proper, then average incomes should be at least 100k higher.


In Poland in 1st league:

Zawodnicy: $ 619 841 Frekwencja: $ 500 454
Personel: $ 61 281 Gadżety: $ 92 673
Skauting: $ 6 875 Kontrakt z TV: $ 210 966
Razem: $ 687 997 Razem: $ 804 093
Średni zysk drużyn tej ligi: $ 116 096

But we have currently 2,5 tanking teams. If we count average for 13 competitive teams then League Average Net Income = ~40k. And if my calculations are right I think ~6 teams have negative weekly balance.

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193604.71 in reply to 193604.70
Date: 8/12/2011 6:13:29 PM
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But look at your TV Contract and Merchandise mine is just 60% of it and look at your player salary its double from mine. As your expenses are quite higher that us that put effect on average income.

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193604.72 in reply to 193604.71
Date: 8/12/2011 6:33:41 PM
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But our TV contracts and Merchandises are higher just because we have better players.
And our expenses MUST be higher to survive. In fact I have little higher salaries than You. And I have 100% chance to be relegated, meanwhile You should qualify easily to play-offs.

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193604.73 in reply to 193604.72
Date: 8/12/2011 6:38:11 PM
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Yea thats true because there are not much active managers in our country.

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193604.74 in reply to 193604.73
Date: 8/12/2011 6:56:03 PM
Bisamberg Torpedos
Bundesliga
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Second Team:
Bisamberg Torpedos II
Even with fewer users it can be hard to compete in Div I. .. the Reason its easy for you is because some of Indias Div I teams have a ridiculously small Arena

Compare Austria (89 Users) to Germany (over 1000 users) or Poland (over 3800 users), our Income/Spending isn't much different in Div I (Div. II and lower is of course way weaker than these Leagues in a big country)

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193604.75 in reply to 193604.74
Date: 8/12/2011 7:16:18 PM
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So conclusion is as we got less competition as compared to you so because of that your expense is more and income too. :)

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