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320335.94 in reply to 320335.93
Date: 11/27/2023 9:25:15 AM
Black Light
NBBA
Overall Posts Rated:
134134
Second Team:
Capitol Hill Arrows
Thanks. Having been away from the game for about 9 years, I've missed a bunch of these talks. Is team defense = team OD?

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Date: 11/27/2023 1:43:26 PM
Corntucky Mildcats
III.3
Overall Posts Rated:
123123
Second Team:
Winchester Crows
Thanks! I thought it seemed not right. Dig deep on that research! That NT stat is fascinating.

From: Joruus

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Date: 11/28/2023 11:55:44 AM
Joruus
II.4
Overall Posts Rated:
656656
Very interesting. Thank you.

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320335.99 in reply to 320335.89
Date: 11/29/2023 9:43:20 AM
Veyrier Wailers
Nationalliga A
Overall Posts Rated:
4747
Second Team:
Zion Ocelots

Salary coeffs are "expected" to get tweaks at some point. I already started hedging with some trainees. My gut says one more season of data, maybe, before they change anything.




I noticed a salary drop on 126 swiss players this offseason, almost all of them (124/126) are now 19 or 20yo, so maybe we already have some tweaks applied but only on players 20 or younger. The 2 other guys are 25 and 33yo...

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Date: 11/29/2023 12:40:07 PM
Veyrier Wailers
Nationalliga A
Overall Posts Rated:
4747
Second Team:
Zion Ocelots
Thanks,

So is there something I'm not aware of that can explain a salary drop on a 33yo or less player ?

From: mink0ff

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320335.102 in reply to 320335.97
Date: 11/30/2023 7:07:46 AM
BC Vitosha Sofia
A Grupa
Overall Posts Rated:
821821
Second Team:
Sofia Alpha Dogz
Good stuff, mate!

Didn't get a chance to watch it up until now, unfortunately. Definitely liked it!

Interesting numbers indeed. Some quite unexpected win rates imho. Wanted to maybe see more data on the box-and-one defenses, as well as the outside iso offense but obviously they are not yet used enough and the sample size is way too small to extract any meaningful data.

What I plan to do sometime soon is to have a script go through all Swiss-system match-ups (for obvious reasons), B3 + all BBM tiers. Filter out all garbage time games, filter out all GDP games. Possibly filter out all injury-affected games as well. Then the results should not be too contaminated and the sample size might just be enough to provide some insights on the less frequently used tactics as well.

Keep up the good work!

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320335.103 in reply to 320335.102
Date: 1/25/2024 8:11:48 AM
Nitra Corgons
Extraliga
Overall Posts Rated:
10081008
Second Team:
Nitra Urpiners
Throwing some basic stats from NT First round European championship games:

Total 168 games among all participants:
Outside offense_107_58wins_54,2% win rate_109,19 avg pts scored
Neutral offense_143_70wins_48,95% win rate_105,93 avg pts scored
Inside offense_86_40wins_46,51% win rate_101,10 avg pts scored

Total 36 games among 4 best teams in group:
Outside offense_25_16wins_64,0% win rate_107,52 avg pts scored
Neutral offense_21_9wins_42,86% win rate_102,33 avg pts scored
Inside offense_26_11wins_42,31% win rate_99,54 avg pts scored

Total 168 games among all participants:
motion_46_24wins_52,2% win rate_106,7 avg pts scored_4,2 rnk vs 4,1 rnk opponent
princeton_22_8wins_36,4% win rate_93,3 avg pts scored_5,1 rnk vs 4,0 rnk opponent
run and gun_39_26wins_66,7% win rate_121,2 avg pts scored_4,1 rnk vs 5,5 rnk opponent

look inside_70_34wins_48,6% win rate_101,9 avg pts scored_4,3 rnk vs 4,1 rnk opponent
low post_16_6wins_37,5% win rate_97,7 avg pts scored_3,9 rnk vs 3,8 rnk opponent

patient_18_1wins_5,6% win rate_80,6 avg pts scored_6,7 rnk vs 3,2 rnk opponent
push the ball_46_31wins_67,4% win rate_120,6 avg pts scored_4,4 rnk vs 6,0 rnk opponent
base offense_10_3wins_30,0% win rate_91,6 avg pts scored_5,7 rnk vs 4,0 rnk opponent
outside iso_15_8wins_53,3% win rate_108,3 avg pts scored_5,5 rnk vs 5,4 rnk opponent
inside iso_54_27wins_50% win rate_103,9 avg pts scored_4,0 rnk vs 4,0 rnk opponent

Edit:
rnk - means average group standing position of team that played chosen tactic,
rnk opponent - means average group standing position of team against which was tactic played




Team rating relevancy (average group standing position among 10 best records in each category):

OS_3,4
IS_3,1
OD_1,5
ID_2,1
RB_3,1
OF_4,1
TOTAL SUM_1,8


Last edited by LA-zajino at 1/25/2024 8:32:17 AM

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