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324427.4 in reply to 324427.3
Date: 7/2/2024 9:48:41 AM
Roter Stern Stuttgart
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Little bit off-topic maybe, singen it is another case.
I had two games last week with 'strictly follow..' with a blank starting spot and the Trainee as Backup and Reserve. They only played 46 minutes... this also never ever happend before to me and is considered as 'save' to get the full 48


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324427.5 in reply to 324427.1
Date: 7/2/2024 2:22:10 PM
Coconut Academy
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The rotations are a bit bullshit imo. I had a really close game today and my coach is playing the bum subs in the final 2 minutes of the game. Great.

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324427.6 in reply to 324427.4
Date: 7/2/2024 7:27:39 PM
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Little bit off-topic maybe, singen it is another case.
I had two games last week with 'strictly follow..' with a blank starting spot and the Trainee as Backup and Reserve. They only played 46 minutes... this also never ever happend before to me and is considered as 'save' to get the full 48



The training difference between 48 and 47 minutes is zero.
And for players of 18, 19 or more than 27 between 48 and 42 it is also zero.

Even for players between 20 and 26 years old, I bet that it won't mean a pop less throughout the season even if those 46 minutes of training were repeated every week.

I don't understand the fuss for just a couple of minutes.

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324427.7 in reply to 324427.6
Date: 7/3/2024 12:13:02 AM
Roter Stern Stuttgart
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Thank you for the list mate.
I know that. One of the trainees is 24years, maybe NT-candidate in a few seasons and we talk about 46 minutes, not 47...., Every Training counts from my perspective...

But my point was: it always worked before and there were two games last week when it didn't..

BR, Ted

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324427.8 in reply to 324427.7
Date: 12/3/2024 1:46:33 PM
Svätý Jur Snakers
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I had it set to:
Substitutions: Follow Depth Chart
PG - 1 - 1 - 6
SG - 2 - 2 - 7
SF - 3 - 3 - 8

Yet my PG1 didn't play in the second quarter at all and only played 23 minutes in total. He's in the same condition as both SG and SF and played 30 minutes in the previous game with the same offensive tactics and the same setup with a record score difference. He wasn't injured in the game, so why didn't he play in the 2nd quarter at all?

Unless a player gets injured or fouls out, it's not possible for him to play fewer minutes than a substitute. Especially when I had it set to:
Substitutions: Follow Depth Chart

Please fix it.

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324427.9 in reply to 324427.1
Date: 1/23/2025 9:56:24 PM
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Hello,

Before when I played "Strictly follow" and put my backup player only on Reserves, they only played in garbage time or injury/6 fouls situations. Now they are playing like a normal backup getting minutes in the first quarter. Is it because they erased strictly follow dept chart or something?

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324427.10 in reply to 324427.9
Date: 1/24/2025 9:53:51 PM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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I have been playing BB for 15 years (RL) and in every game of every year I have ever played I have either trained 3-6 players in either 1-2 positions...

...and have NEVER had significant training minute losses like those discussed here. Perhaps a 47 minutes at worst or less if fouled out (acceptable). Why? because I have followed a two strict rules:

1. If you are training a player, play them 48 minutes and list them as STARTER/RESRVE/BACKUP; and
2. Choose Strictly Follow for Coach decisions.

IMO, there is nothing wrong with the GE, you just need to assume that if you do not follow these 2 above rules, things may not go as you planned regarding minutes and training...and likely won't.

Best Regards.

MrJ

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324427.11 in reply to 324427.10
Date: 1/25/2025 3:50:37 AM
NakamichiDragons
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Let me add two or three comments:

1. You have to select „let them play“ in case of foul trouble.
2. You should not line up more than 9 players for 1-pos.-training; 8 for 2-pos.-training.
3. Do not screw your substitutions ;-) straight structure/line up.

I got the best results with leaving the starter blank which is a little bit risky in case of walk overs.

Since exhaustion has been introduced it is very hard to have players older than 27 to get 48 minutes … but they only have to play 40 minutes for full training … so there is no problem ;-)

founded in S3 IV.5 (34234) - returned in S28 IV.7 (34515)
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324427.12 in reply to 324427.11
Date: 1/25/2025 4:59:44 AM
Swan River Serpents
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Let me add two or three comments:

1. You have to select „let them play“ in case of foul trouble.
2. You should not line up more than 9 players for 1-pos.-training; 8 for 2-pos.-training.
3. Do not screw your substitutions ;-) straight structure/line up.

I got the best results with leaving the starter blank which is a little bit risky in case of walk overs.

Since exhaustion has been introduced it is very hard to have players older than 27 to get 48 minutes … but they only have to play 40 minutes for full training … so there is no problem ;-)


+1 Erik.

I forgot to mention 'let them play' and this is very important.



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