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From: Wagner

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324689.592 in reply to 324689.590
Date: 3/20/2025 1:38:18 PM
Wagner College
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Maybe the simplest way to avoid confusion is to publish a table with the local time of each participant's country, do you want me to prepare it?

Actually this is unfortunately not a good idea, as some countries such as USA and Australia reside over multiple time zones.
Each team needs to be given it's own match time. This is why I asked time zone information from each manager residing in countries with 2 or more time zones in them, and created a list here: (324689.559).

Most likely I will copy this team information from this above list to both official HGL threads today. But I guess it would be necessary also to write some kind of introductory/reminder post as well first, so that process goes smoothly...

From: Wagner

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324689.593 in reply to 324689.591
Date: 3/20/2025 2:10:56 PM
Wagner College
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Lets also not forget yall, it is 100% guaranteed a mistake will happen, it just is what it is.

I LOVE the preparation and planning, but its just going to be an accident that someone puts in a wrong time, or accidentally forgets to schedule something, or something happens...

We just roll with it and always come back to the understanding this is a game, and in all our years of playing this, its a really cool undertaking yall are doing. :-)


I'm trying to take most steps imaginable to prevent that from happening. I think one of those steps is a designated match time, that is given for all teams separately. This, in my opinion shouldn't leave any room for errors, unless of course, one is just mindlessly organizing a seasons worth of matches, which I really hope wouldn't be the case with anyone of us :D

Besides, when the organizing round is ready, all managers will be asked to confirm (and preferably double-check) their schedule to confirm all opponents, dates and match times (that they see in their calendar - should exactly match times that are given on that aforementioned list) are in fact correct. That's easy when you just keep two tabs open in a browser simultaneously...
If those match specs are not correct on some part, then team needs to make another try in arranging PU match with correct details. Yes, they lose one token by doing so, but maybe they'll remember it better because of that later on...
Yes, it will be lots of fun for sure! :)

From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.594 in reply to 324689.585
Date: 3/20/2025 2:13:48 PM
Wagner College
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Now that we have a set time, 2:30 Pm EET, are we good to start scheduling our games?

I will use your time of 7:30 Eastern Time (ET) for when I schedule my games.

Thanks for making a set time, best of luck yall! :-)



Not sure? Wagner? I think we are close...

Yes, very close indeed. While hopefully all managers have read what has been written on these two official HGL threads, maybe I need to write a post about the process first...

From: Wagner

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324689.595 in reply to 324689.594
Date: 3/20/2025 2:28:18 PM
Wagner College
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I actually noticed an error in my previous scheduling now that I again took a look HGL schedule created earlier.
Like you guys know, HGL should start on season 68, and not on 67. I had also written that "time window for booking/organizing matches for the next season of HGL takes place between transfer deadline and first match of a BB league" and that "league starts on a Monday after first BB league match".

So clearly, this isn't the case if league would start 31st of March, as it now says in the calendar.

So for this reason, we should postpone the current start for one week, to April 7th. This is easily done, if we just change dates in the schedule - no need to touch the matchups as everything else remains the same, everything just moves forward one week. There is an added benefit, that I will get all the rest work finalized in more reasonable time frame. I didn't actually register MrJ's comment about the rush in that dramatic manner, as I have all the time thought that start will be after the first league match of of BB, as it is supposed to be.

Well, luckily this is easily fixed. So myself, MrJ and T-Lit need to make changes to the schedule posts before we can proceed (as all of them might be used for organizing matches, while I guess MrJs' list is the key as it will likely be used for organizing matches as it has important information bolded, which is the key for knowing who will challenge who). Everything will just move one week forward.

EDIT:
@MrJ&T-Lit: I have now finished editing the official schedule post on HGL Scores Season 1 Official Thread, here: (326590.5).
So I changed the starting date to April 7th. Maybe if you MrJ could change dates on your list (with bolded team names, as that's what is likely used in organizing matches), based on those changes above? (And then possibly if you, T-Lit, want to include your list to the forum just as last time, it also would need to reflect recent changes especially as it is then located at the official thread). Sorry guys for extra mile you have to take! I knew something like this could happen, so that's why I also say that it's definitely safe to say to me if there's some lack of logic in my thinking, or if I've missed some point... just a pure accident/wrong assuming led to this, but like said, it just gives us a week more time and in that sense it's a welcoming one!

I also already wrote a post about how to proceed with pickup games organizing (so it's ready for publication once we are ready to roll - I didn't publish it yet on purpose). After all schedules (now you MrJ and T-Lit left as I changed mine) are corrected, I can send that post on this thread, and all can comment if they spot some definite mistakes in it - and then if nobody says anything or confirms it's fine, I'll send it to official forums so we can get organizing matches going. If needed, I can send all managers BBMail too, but now that season start was transferred to the date it belongs to (as written in league rules), we should have plenty of time also without BBMail notifications.

Last edited by Wagner at 3/20/2025 4:36:24 PM

From: Wagner

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324689.596 in reply to 324689.584
Date: 3/20/2025 2:40:57 PM
Wagner College
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@all managers: After we have postponed the start of the season for one week to 7th of April, we will be able to start arranging our matches. On the other words, current schedule doesn't reflect correct match days, so it needs to be modified. It is not a long process, so we are close to it already. Having said that, please do not start organizing matches for Season 1 just yet. I will let you know in the official HGL threads and here, when it's the time to start that process.

I will write a short info post about organizing process, which I'll release on official HGL threads when we have finished changing the match dates on the schedule. I will not release it yet, because some might get an idea that we are already ready to start the process of organizing matches.

But again as a reminder to all: there has been a rule change, and all HGL matches are played simultaneously. So you will use certain time that is specific to your team, when you send Pickup match invitations. This time will be found from official HGL threads at participating teams-posts (more information about this later).

So a bit more patience please, as we correct the schedule!

Last edited by Wagner at 3/20/2025 4:42:31 PM

From: MrJ

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324689.597 in reply to 324689.595
Date: 3/21/2025 4:09:41 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
I actually noticed an error in my previous scheduling now that I again took a look HGL schedule created earlier.
Like you guys know, HGL should start on season 68, and not on 67. I had also written that "time window for booking/organizing matches for the next season of HGL takes place between transfer deadline and first match of a BB league" and that "league starts on a Monday after first BB league match".

So clearly, this isn't the case if league would start 31st of March, as it now says in the calendar.

So for this reason, we should postpone the current start for one week, to April 7th. This is easily done, if we just change dates in the schedule - no need to touch the matchups as everything else remains the same, everything just moves forward one week. There is an added benefit, that I will get all the rest work finalized in more reasonable time frame. I didn't actually register MrJ's comment about the rush in that dramatic manner, as I have all the time thought that start will be after the first league match of of BB, as it is supposed to be.

Well, luckily this is easily fixed. So myself, MrJ and T-Lit need to make changes to the schedule posts before we can proceed (as all of them might be used for organizing matches, while I guess MrJs' list is the key as it will likely be used for organizing matches as it has important information bolded, which is the key for knowing who will challenge who). Everything will just move one week forward.

EDIT:
@MrJ&T-Lit: I have now finished editing the official schedule post on HGL Scores Season 1 Official Thread, here: (326590.5).
So I changed the starting date to April 7th. Maybe if you MrJ could change dates on your list (with bolded team names, as that's what is likely used in organizing matches), based on those changes above? (And then possibly if you, T-Lit, want to include your list to the forum just as last time, it also would need to reflect recent changes especially as it is then located at the official thread). Sorry guys for extra mile you have to take! I knew something like this could happen, so that's why I also say that it's definitely safe to say to me if there's some lack of logic in my thinking, or if I've missed some point... just a pure accident/wrong assuming led to this, but like said, it just gives us a week more time and in that sense it's a welcoming one!

I also already wrote a post about how to proceed with pickup games organizing (so it's ready for publication once we are ready to roll - I didn't publish it yet on purpose). After all schedules (now you MrJ and T-Lit left as I changed mine) are corrected, I can send that post on this thread, and all can comment if they spot some definite mistakes in it - and then if nobody says anything or confirms it's fine, I'll send it to official forums so we can get organizing matches going. If needed, I can send all managers BBMail too, but now that season start was transferred to the date it belongs to (as written in league rules), we should have plenty of time also without BBMail notifications.


I will do that now.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

To: MrJ
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324689.598 in reply to 324689.597
Date: 3/21/2025 4:19:22 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
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Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

I have now updated my schedule to reflect the new dates, Wagner. (324689.513)

Last edited by MrJ at 3/21/2025 4:22:16 AM

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: Wagner

To: MrJ
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324689.599 in reply to 324689.598
Date: 3/21/2025 9:22:12 AM
Wagner College
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Thanks very much, MrJ!

I will now (next post) send an information about a regular match organizing process here in the forum.
I think it should be fine (meaning not include clear errors), but if someone, to whom this PU organizing process is already very clear without even reading through such post, wants to read through it and comment if it's fine for official publishing on official forum, I will wait for such comments for a while.

After verifying (by hearing your opinions) it's all correct information/doesn't include inaccuracies etc., I will send it to both official HGL threads (likely to announcements-section, which are second post on main HGL thread, and third post on HGL scores thread), so after my following post will be found from official HGL threads, the process of organizing matches actually starts.

Remember, we are definitely starting this organizing process early anyway this season (which is nice of course, as this is the first time and we'll see if some problems will arise that require more time than anticipated), as normally this time window of scheduling regular season games would take place between closing of drafting deadline window (this season March 31st), and first match of regular BB season (this season April 5th).

From: MrJ

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324689.600 in reply to 324689.599
Date: 3/21/2025 9:26:42 AM
Swan River Serpents
III.2
Overall Posts Rated:
348348
Second Team:
Westopian Tigers
Thanks very much, MrJ!

I will now (next post) send an information about a regular match organizing process here in the forum.
I think it should be fine (meaning not include clear errors), but if someone, to whom this PU organizing process is already very clear without even reading through such post, wants to read through it and comment if it's fine for official publishing on official forum, I will wait for such comments for a while.

After verifying (by hearing your opinions) it's all correct information/doesn't include inaccuracies etc., I will send it to both official HGL threads (likely to announcements-section, which are second post on main HGL thread, and third post on HGL scores thread), so after my following post will be found from official HGL threads, the process of organizing matches actually starts.

Remember, we are definitely starting this organizing process early anyway this season (which is nice of course, as this is the first time and we'll see if some problems will arise that require more time than anticipated), as normally this time window of scheduling regular season games would take place between closing of drafting deadline window (this season March 31st), and first match of regular BB season (this season April 5th).


Sounds good, Wagner. I'm not seeing any issues.

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: MrJ

To: MrJ
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324689.601 in reply to 324689.600
Date: 3/21/2025 9:30:17 AM
Swan River Serpents
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Second Team:
Westopian Tigers

Only issue I found:

You didn't bold the team who will issue the PU challenge. (326590.5)

Home Grown; for teams who like a challenge!
From: T-Lit
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324689.602 in reply to 324689.513
Date: 3/21/2025 9:32:39 AM
Buckner Bandits
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Piggybacking on Mr. J schedule

TEAMS:
Wagner College (((172501))) WAG ||FIN|| $K Manager: Wagner
Les Gueux du Marais (((86508))) LGM ||FRA|| $K Manager: Coach Faz
Elan Demars (((87312))) ED ||FRA|| $K Manager: demars
Holy City Hoopers (((23767))) HCH ||USA|| $K Manager: Gccsteel
Buckner Bandits (((23579))) BUC ||USA|| $K Manager: T-Lit
Madrid Chotis (((76877))) (D) ||SPA|| $K Manager: Jotadoce
WiMaOlca (((35977))) WMO ||FRA|| $K Manager: WiMaOl
Rajdersi (((237760))) RAJ ||POL|| $K Manager: Paul George
Santa Eufemia Ducks (((24340))) SED ||ARG|| $K Manager: GM-Enzo
Swan River Serpents (((197075))) SRS ||AUS|| $K Manager: MrJ
Lielupes Melnas Sirdis (((146915))) LMS ||LVA|| $K Manager: Moneta
Suuret Muinaiset (((172657))) SUM ||FIN|| $K Manager: cthulhu
Heywood Big Dogs (((196315))) HEY ||AUS|| $K Manager: Deano25
Svätý Jur Snakers (((172088))) HAD ||SVK|| $K Manager: Hadar
Big Chillers (((31968))) BIG ||USA|| $K Manager: Big Chill
Trouville BBC (((115547))) TRO ||URG|| $K Manager: Chucarro

The final and fairest schedule we can produce taking into account all factors:

RS Round 1: Monday, April 7th, 2025
WAG v TRO
LGM v BIG
ED v HAD
HCH v HEY
BUC v SUM
D v LMS
WMO v SRS
RAJ v SED

RS Round 2: Friday, April 11th, 2025
BIG v WAG
HAD v TRO
HEY v LGM
SUM v ED
LMS v HCH
SRS v BUC
SED v D
RAJ v WMO

RS Round 3: Monday, April 14th, 2025
WAG v HAD
BIG v HEY
TRO v SUM
LGM v LMS
ED v SRS
HCH v SED
BUC v RAJ
D v WMO

RS Round 4: Friday, April 18th, 2025
HEY v WAG
SUM v HAD
LMS v BIG
SRS v TRO
SED v LGM
RAJ v ED
WMO v HCH
D v BUC

RS Round 5: Monday, April 21st, 2025
WAG v SUM
HEY v LMS
HAD v SRS
BIG v SED
TRO v RAJ
LGM v WMO
ED v D
HCH v BUC

RS Round 6: Friday, April 25th, 2025
LMS v WAG
SRS v SUM
SED v HEY
HAD v RAJ
WMO v BIG
TRO v D
BUC v LGM
HCH v ED

RS Round 7: Monday, April 28th, 2025
WAG v SRS
LMS v SED
SUM v RAJ
HEY v WMO
HAD v D
BIG v BUC
TRO v HCH
LGM v ED

RS Round 8: Friday, May 2nd, 2025
SED v WAG
RAJ v SRS
WMO v LMS
D v SUM
BUC v HEY
HCH v HAD
ED v BIG
LGM v TRO

RS Round 9: Monday, May 5th, 2025
WAG v RAJ
SED v WMO
SRS v D
LMS v BUC
SUM v HCH
HEY v ED
HAD v LGM
BIG v TRO

RS Round 10: Friday, May 9th, 2025
WMO v WAG
D v RAJ
BUC v SED
SRS v HCH
ED v LMS
SUM v LGM
TRO v HEY
BIG v HAD

RS Round 11: Monday, May 12th, 2025
WAG v D
WMO v BUC
RAJ v HCH
SED v ED
SRS v LGM
LMS v TRO
SUM v BIG
HEY v HAD

RS Round 12: Friday, May 16th, 2025
BUC v WAG
HCH v D
ED v WMO
LGM v RAJ
TRO v SED
BIG v SRS
HAD v LMS
HEY v SUM

RS Round 13: Monday, May 19th, 2025
WAG v HCH
BUC v ED
D v LGM
WMO v TRO
RAJ v BIG
SED v HAD
SRS v HEY
LMS v SUM

RS Round 14: Friday, May 23rd, 2025
ED v WAG
LGM v HCH
TRO v BUC
D v BIG
HAD v WMO
RAJ v HEY
SUM v SED
LMS v SRS

RS Round 15: Monday, May 26th, 2025
WAG v LGM
ED v TRO
HCH v BIG
BUC v HAD
D v HEY
WMO v SUM
RAJ v LMS
SED v SRS

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